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Old 09-12-2013, 11:30 PM   #1
choro
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Default Resizing C drive in Win 7

I thought with Win 7 one doesn't need 3rd party software to resize
partitions. But when I tried to expand my C drive by another 50 GB, the
thingie was greyed out. So much for not needing 3rd party software for
this job in Win 7.

Did it with Paragon Suite. It took nearly 2,5 hours but at least it did
it with no hysterics.

Naturally I had backed up my C partition and my D user files partitions
with Macrium Reflect beforehand. Just in case. You never know. For some
reason I prefer Macrium Reflect for backups. Maybe it is because I am
more familiar with it.
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Old 09-12-2013, 11:30 PM   #2
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:17:25 +0100, choro wrote:

> I thought with Win 7 one doesn't need 3rd party software to resize
> partitions. But when I tried to expand my C drive by another 50 GB, the
> thingie was greyed out. So much for not needing 3rd party software for
> this job in Win 7.


Win 7's resizing software has some bizarre limitations, so the free
alternatives are sometimes necessary.

In fact I never have tried Windows's resizing, I just went straight to
EaseUS or Paragon.

> Did it with Paragon Suite. It took nearly 2,5 hours but at least it did
> it with no hysterics.


Yeah.

> Naturally I had backed up my C partition and my D user files partitions
> with Macrium Reflect beforehand. Just in case. You never know. For some
> reason I prefer Macrium Reflect for backups. Maybe it is because I am
> more familiar with it.


That seems to be why I use it.

Well, maybe more than that. I have had issues with Casper for cloning
and with Acronis. Others have reported that they really like Acronis,
and I have no idea what anyone else thinks about Casper.

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Old 09-13-2013, 12:30 AM   #3
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:25:20 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

> On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:17:25 +0100, choro wrote:
>
>> I thought with Win 7 one doesn't need 3rd party software to resize
>> partitions. But when I tried to expand my C drive by another 50 GB, the
>> thingie was greyed out. So much for not needing 3rd party software for
>> this job in Win 7.

>
> Win 7's resizing software has some bizarre limitations, so the free
> alternatives are sometimes necessary.
>
> In fact I never have tried Windows's resizing, I just went straight to
> EaseUS or Paragon.
>
>> Did it with Paragon Suite. It took nearly 2,5 hours but at least it did
>> it with no hysterics.

>
> Yeah.
>
>> Naturally I had backed up my C partition and my D user files partitions
>> with Macrium Reflect beforehand. Just in case. You never know. For some
>> reason I prefer Macrium Reflect for backups. Maybe it is because I am
>> more familiar with it.

>
> That seems to be why I use it.
>
> Well, maybe more than that. I have had issues with Casper for cloning
> and with Acronis. Others have reported that they really like Acronis,
> and I have no idea what anyone else thinks about Casper.


I happened to recall one thing I hate about Macrium Reflect.

When I do an incremental backuup, Reflect can run to 95% completion and
*then* report that there's not enough room on the drive to finish the
task. Anyone out there who hates me can take pleasure in how that makes
me feel :-)

I know that EaseUS backup is kind enough to estimate *and report* that
*before* starting the backup. I don't know how other software deals with
it.

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Old 09-13-2013, 02:30 AM   #4
R. C. White
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Default Re: Resizing C drive in Win 7

Hi, Choro.

Was there at least 50 GB of Unallocated Space contiguously following your
Drive C:?

If there is enough space immediately following Drive C:, then Disk
Management should be able to handle the extension. It worked for me,
several times.

If the space immediately after Drive C: was already partitioned, then you
would need to clear at least 50 GB there - and that MIGHT take 3rd-party
software. Or a multi-step workaround IF the arithmetic fits: move the
interfering contents, delete that partition, and then restore the moved
contents afterwards. If you have enough clear space following that other
partition, this can work - I've done that, too - but it has to be preplanned
and carefully executed. Or if you have another disk, even a large flash
drive, with enough space, you can use that for temporary storage. But a
3rd-party program is probably easier.

For details, see:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc771473.aspx

RC
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San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8 Pro


"choro" wrote in message news:dYrYt.41836$WW4.38609@fx34.am4...

I thought with Win 7 one doesn't need 3rd party software to resize
partitions. But when I tried to expand my C drive by another 50 GB, the
thingie was greyed out. So much for not needing 3rd party software for
this job in Win 7.

Did it with Paragon Suite. It took nearly 2,5 hours but at least it did
it with no hysterics.

Naturally I had backed up my C partition and my D user files partitions
with Macrium Reflect beforehand. Just in case. You never know. For some
reason I prefer Macrium Reflect for backups. Maybe it is because I am
more familiar with it.
--
choro
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:30 AM   #5
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> "choro" wrote in message news:dYrYt.41836$WW4.38609@fx34.am4...
>
> I thought with Win 7 one doesn't need 3rd party software to resize
> partitions. But when I tried to expand my C drive by another 50 GB, the
> thingie was greyed out. So much for not needing 3rd party software for
> this job in Win 7.
>
> Did it with Paragon Suite. It took nearly 2,5 hours but at least it did
> it with no hysterics.
>
> Naturally I had backed up my C partition and my D user files partitions
> with Macrium Reflect beforehand. Just in case. You never know. For some
> reason I prefer Macrium Reflect for backups. Maybe it is because I am
> more familiar with it.


On 13/09/2013 02:49, R. C. White responded:
> Hi, Choro.
>
> Was there at least 50 GB of Unallocated Space contiguously following
> your Drive C:?
>
> If there is enough space immediately following Drive C:, then Disk
> Management should be able to handle the extension. It worked for me,
> several times.
>
> If the space immediately after Drive C: was already partitioned, then
> you would need to clear at least 50 GB there - and that MIGHT take
> 3rd-party software. Or a multi-step workaround IF the arithmetic fits:
> move the interfering contents, delete that partition, and then restore
> the moved contents afterwards. If you have enough clear space following
> that other partition, this can work - I've done that, too - but it has
> to be preplanned and carefully executed. Or if you have another disk,
> even a large flash drive, with enough space, you can use that for
> temporary storage. But a 3rd-party program is probably easier.
>
> For details, see:
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc771473.aspx
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
> Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8 Pro


Yes, yes, I know. But IF Win 7 is supposed to tackle such a task, it
should be able to tackle such a task regardless.

Have you heard of Half-baked truths, or of Being economical with the truth?

Why bother to included such a half baked facility in the OS in the first
place?
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Old 09-13-2013, 03:30 AM   #6
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choro wrote:
> > "choro" wrote in message news:dYrYt.41836$WW4.38609@fx34.am4...
> >
> > I thought with Win 7 one doesn't need 3rd party software to resize
> > partitions. But when I tried to expand my C drive by another 50 GB, the
> > thingie was greyed out. So much for not needing 3rd party software for
> > this job in Win 7.
> >
> > Did it with Paragon Suite. It took nearly 2,5 hours but at least it did
> > it with no hysterics.
> >
> > Naturally I had backed up my C partition and my D user files partitions
> > with Macrium Reflect beforehand. Just in case. You never know. For some
> > reason I prefer Macrium Reflect for backups. Maybe it is because I am
> > more familiar with it.

>
> On 13/09/2013 02:49, R. C. White responded:
>> Hi, Choro.
>>
>> Was there at least 50 GB of Unallocated Space contiguously following
>> your Drive C:?
>>
>> If there is enough space immediately following Drive C:, then Disk
>> Management should be able to handle the extension. It worked for me,
>> several times.
>>
>> If the space immediately after Drive C: was already partitioned, then
>> you would need to clear at least 50 GB there - and that MIGHT take
>> 3rd-party software. Or a multi-step workaround IF the arithmetic fits:
>> move the interfering contents, delete that partition, and then restore
>> the moved contents afterwards. If you have enough clear space following
>> that other partition, this can work - I've done that, too - but it has
>> to be preplanned and carefully executed. Or if you have another disk,
>> even a large flash drive, with enough space, you can use that for
>> temporary storage. But a 3rd-party program is probably easier.
>>
>> For details, see:
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc771473.aspx
>>
>> RC
>> --
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>> rc@grandecom.net
>> Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
>> Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8 Pro

>
> Yes, yes, I know. But IF Win 7 is supposed to tackle such a task, it
> should be able to tackle such a task regardless.
>
> Have you heard of Half-baked truths, or of Being economical with the truth?
>
> Why bother to included such a half baked facility in the OS in the first
> place?


Are you sure there is nothing after that partition ?

------>
+--------------+------------------+
| Partition | Some Empty Space |
+--------------+------------------+

I share your opinion about the implementation. What
were they thinking ? It's the strangest "half-assed"
feature implementation I've seen from a big software
company. Does the design document for the feature
say to do a half-assed job ? The mind boggles. If I
was the responsible manager, I would have simply
removed the feature entirely - no shrink or expand.
At least that way, users wouldn't be wasting time
trying to get it to work.

Paul

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