Richard Henderson

Hmm.
Have visited the website you suggested and run ccleaner and dialafix as
detailed there. Has certainly cleaned out a lot of rubbish ... but sadly
still can't run updates. Failed to download security update KB917953 and
failed to install MS.net Framework1.1 service pack 1 - and it hangs when
trying to install IE7 as before.
Any further suggestions?

"Peter Foldes" wrote:

> I just came across this for the Windows Update issue. Give it a read
>
> http://groups.google.fr/group/micros...393c5468ccf766
>
> --
> Peter
>
> Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
>
> "Richard Henderson" <RichardHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:912AB017-3E92-4F65-8BEF-2EA0DFF41D19@microsoft.com...
> > Latest update:
> > Have run rustbfix (see logs in posting above) but still can't update. Hangs
> > while trying to install IE7 and generates Drwatson postmortem debugger error
> > notice as before. What's up? Is this something other than the virus?
> >
> > "Richard Henderson" wrote:
> >
> >> Peter
> >> Thanks. Will try when I get home ... but does what I describe sound like a
> >> Win32/Rustock.gen!C infection, and does McAfee not pick this up?
> >>
> >> "Peter Foldes" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Download - rustbfix.exe and save it to your desktop.
> >> >
> >> > If a Rustock.b-infection is found, you will be asked to reboot the computer.
> >> >
> >> > After when you reboot it will take some time for the Desktop to come up. You might need to reboot 2 times , depending.
> >> >
> >> > When the desktop will come up you will have 1-2 logfiles that will show up for you. The infection should be gone. If not post those log files here.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Peter
> >> >
> >> > Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
> >> > Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
> >> >
> >> > "TaurArian [MS-MVP]" <taurarianREMOVECAPS@gmail.com> wrote in message news:eliUBM$3HHA.3400@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "Richard Henderson" <RichardHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:23E8EE0D-6ACA-4D89-9598-6EFBD760C99D@microsoft.com...
> >> > > | Apologies if this appears twice - had a crash just as I first posted re this!
> >> > > | Running XP, have had a frustrating few weeks with repeated random crashes,
> >> > > | BSOD etc. Twice I couldn't boot at all and repaired (not quite a reinstall)
> >> > > | using the CD supplied. After some of the crashes got the error report from
> >> > > | MS that I was infected with Win32/Rustock.gen!C, and directing me to an
> >> > > | online scan that always crashed before completing, although several complete
> >> > > | and up to date McAfee scans have found nothing.
> >> > > | Possibly related to this I have had major problems with updates downloading
> >> > > | but not installing. For a week or so I kept getting the message that Update
> >> > > | installer 3.1 (I think ... from memory) could not be installed. I Googled re
> >> > > | this and found a workaround via regedit and did install the update installer,
> >> > > | after which a number of other updates could be installed, but now no longer.
> >> > > | It keeps hanging when trying to install IE7 (I currently have IE6), and I
> >> > > | need to ctrl/alt/delete out of it. Even when I try a custom install without
> >> > > | IE7 it still doesn't complete installation, and is currently frozen - I am
> >> > > | posting this on another computer provided by work.
> >> > > | I am normally a patient man, but am sorely tempted to throw a brick at the
> >> > > | computer. Some unkind colleagues have suggested I install Linux, but I feel
> >> > > | I am only moderately computer literate and not really sufficient of a nerd to
> >> > > | do this.
> >> > > | Any relatively simple solutions? Or would the simplest and easiest solution
> >> > > | be to reinstall Windows and start again? - I have backed up all essential
> >> > > | files so this wouldn't be a total disaster.
> >> > > | HELP!
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > What concerns me is "Win32/Rustock.gen!C"
> >> > >
> >> > > xposted to security.virus for convenience.
> >> > >
> >> > > Security - Viruses
> >> > > OE client -
> >> > > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsof...security.virus
> >> > > or
> >> > >
> >> > > Web client -
> >> > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...security.virus
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > ====================================
> >> > > TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2008 - Australia
> >> > > ====================================
> >> > > How to make a good post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >> > > Defending your machine: http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
> >> > > http://taurarian.mvps.org/index.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > Emails will not be acknowledged - please post to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
>

Barkimmy

I believe I can help you with the failed Windows update. Apparently this
has really become a common problem that I am sure they are working on. The
fix is fairly easy and has been successful for me on several computers with
the same problem, always different downloads continue to fail and the error
codes differ. But, the problem is the same. Sometimes a Windows Update (or
several) fail to install.

First, go to the Windows Update site. On the left is an option to view your
update history. There you will find any and all updates that have failed.
Write down the KB number of the update. If you click the red button with the
x near the word fail, you will get the error code. You may want to write this
down just in case it could lead you to a future problem.

Then take your KB numbers to:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323166

Just follow the step by step directions. It is not as hard as it sounds and
it worked great for me several times.

I hope this helps.

Barkimmy


> > > | Possibly related to this I have had major problems with updates downloading
> > > | but not installing. For a week or so I kept getting the message that Update
> > > | installer 3.1 (I think ... from memory) could not be installed. I Googled re
> > > | this and found a workaround via regedit and did install the update installer,
> > > | after which a number of other updates could be installed, but now no longer.
> > > | It keeps hanging when trying to install IE7 (I currently have IE6), and I
> > > | need to ctrl/alt/delete out of it. Even when I try a custom install without
> > > | IE7 it still doesn't complete installation, and is currently frozen - I am
> > > | posting this on another computer provided by work.
> > > | I am normally a patient man, but am sorely tempted to throw a brick at the
> > > | computer. Some unkind colleagues have suggested I install Linux, but I feel
> > > | I am only moderately computer literate and not really sufficient of a nerd to
> > > | do this.
> > > | Any relatively simple solutions? Or would the simplest and easiest solution
> > > | be to reinstall Windows and start again? - I have backed up all essential
> > > | files so this wouldn't be a total disaster.
> > > | HELP!
> > > --
> > > ====================================
> > > TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2008 - Australia
> > > ====================================
> > > How to make a good post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> > > Defending your machine: http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
> > > http://taurarian.mvps.org/index.htm
> > >
> > > Emails will not be acknowledged - please post to the newsgroup so all may benefit.
> > >
> > >
> >

PA Bear [MS MVP]

[This thread is from Aug-07]

Barkimmy wrote:
> I believe I can help you with the failed Windows update. Apparently this
> has really become a common problem that I am sure they are working on. The
> fix is fairly easy and has been successful for me on several computers
> with
> the same problem, always different downloads continue to fail and the
> error
> codes differ. But, the problem is the same. Sometimes a Windows Update (or
> several) fail to install.
>
> First, go to the Windows Update site. On the left is an option to view
> your
> update history. There you will find any and all updates that have failed.
> Write down the KB number of the update. If you click the red button with
> the
> x near the word fail, you will get the error code. You may want to write
> this down just in case it could lead you to a future problem.
>
> Then take your KB numbers to:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323166
>
> Just follow the step by step directions. It is not as hard as it sounds
> and
> it worked great for me several times.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Barkimmy
>
>
>>>>> Possibly related to this I have had major problems with updates
>>>>> downloading but not installing. For a week or so I kept getting the
>>>>> message that Update installer 3.1 (I think ... from memory) could not
>>>>> be installed. I Googled re this and found a workaround via regedit
>>>>> and
>>>>> did install the update installer, after which a number of other
>>>>> updates
>>>>> could be installed, but now no longer. It keeps hanging when trying to
>>>>> install IE7 (I currently have IE6), and I need to ctrl/alt/delete out
>>>>> of it. Even when I try a custom install without IE7 it still doesn't
>>>>> complete installation, and is currently frozen - I am posting this on
>>>>> another computer provided by work.
>>>>> I am normally a patient man, but am sorely tempted to throw a brick at
>>>>> the computer. Some unkind colleagues have suggested I install Linux,
>>>>> but I feel I am only moderately computer literate and not really
>>>>> sufficient of a nerd to do this.
>>>>> Any relatively simple solutions? Or would the simplest and easiest
>>>>> solution be to reinstall Windows and start again? - I have backed up
>>>>> all essential files so this wouldn't be a total disaster.
>>>>> HELP!
>>>> --
>>>> ====================================
>>>> TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2008 - Australia
>>>> ====================================
>>>> How to make a good post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>> Defending your machine: http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
>>>> http://taurarian.mvps.org/index.htm
>>>>
>>>> Emails will not be acknowledged - please post to the newsgroup so all
>>>> may benefit.

Barkimmy

I know. But this is still an ongoing problem. If I ran across this thread
looking for my problem who's to say someone else couldn't as well. Would this
one be pulled out of the data base and never get found by query, (search).
Perhaps you were trying to make a different point and I misunderstood you.
After all, you found your way here after all this time,too. I apologize if I
did something inappropriate on this site. I just figured a thread still
readable, and not fully answered, was a thread still open. Let me know if I
was wrong. I am still new to this site.

Barkimmy
--
When you have 15 grandchildren you don''t let a persnickity obnoxious
computer get you down. There are times I wish I could just reboot the kids,
though.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> [This thread is from Aug-07]
>
> Barkimmy wrote:
> > I believe I can help you with the failed Windows update. Apparently this
> > has really become a common problem that I am sure they are working on. The
> > fix is fairly easy and has been successful for me on several computers
> > with
> > the same problem, always different downloads continue to fail and the
> > error
> > codes differ. But, the problem is the same. Sometimes a Windows Update (or
> > several) fail to install.
> >
> > First, go to the Windows Update site. On the left is an option to view
> > your
> > update history. There you will find any and all updates that have failed.
> > Write down the KB number of the update. If you click the red button with
> > the
> > x near the word fail, you will get the error code. You may want to write
> > this down just in case it could lead you to a future problem.
> >
> > Then take your KB numbers to:
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323166
> >
> > Just follow the step by step directions. It is not as hard as it sounds
> > and
> > it worked great for me several times.
> >
> > I hope this helps.
> >
> > Barkimmy
> >
> >
> >>>>> Possibly related to this I have had major problems with updates
> >>>>> downloading but not installing. For a week or so I kept getting the
> >>>>> message that Update installer 3.1 (I think ... from memory) could not
> >>>>> be installed. I Googled re this and found a workaround via regedit
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> did install the update installer, after which a number of other
> >>>>> updates
> >>>>> could be installed, but now no longer. It keeps hanging when trying to
> >>>>> install IE7 (I currently have IE6), and I need to ctrl/alt/delete out
> >>>>> of it. Even when I try a custom install without IE7 it still doesn't
> >>>>> complete installation, and is currently frozen - I am posting this on
> >>>>> another computer provided by work.
> >>>>> I am normally a patient man, but am sorely tempted to throw a brick at
> >>>>> the computer. Some unkind colleagues have suggested I install Linux,
> >>>>> but I feel I am only moderately computer literate and not really
> >>>>> sufficient of a nerd to do this.
> >>>>> Any relatively simple solutions? Or would the simplest and easiest
> >>>>> solution be to reinstall Windows and start again? - I have backed up
> >>>>> all essential files so this wouldn't be a total disaster.
> >>>>> HELP!
> >>>> --
> >>>> ====================================
> >>>> TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2008 - Australia
> >>>> ====================================
> >>>> How to make a good post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >>>> Defending your machine: http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
> >>>> http://taurarian.mvps.org/index.htm
> >>>>
> >>>> Emails will not be acknowledged - please post to the newsgroup so all
> >>>> may benefit.
>
>

Malke

donotspam wrote:

> I know. But this is still an ongoing problem. If I ran across this thread
> looking for my problem who's to say someone else couldn't as well. Would
> this one be pulled out of the data base and never get found by query,
> (search). Perhaps you were trying to make a different point and I
> misunderstood you. After all, you found your way here after all this
> time,too. I apologize if I did something inappropriate on this site. I
> just figured a thread still readable, and not fully answered, was a thread
> still open. Let me know if I was wrong. I am still new to this site.

You're wrong only because you didn't realize this isn't a "site" but the web
interface to a newsgroup and therefore the thread may never be downloaded,
depending on how people have set their newsreaders up.

There is absolutely nothing for you to apologize for; you made an honest
mistake (which hurts no one) and one that is made by newcomers to the MS
public newsgroups every day. The web interface is the clunkiest, worst way
to access these groups. Instead, you should consider setting up a
newsreader - extremely easy to do. See the information below:

Since you are using the web interface, you may not realize that this is
really a newsgroup. You will get far more out of this resource if you learn
to use a newsreader. There are many good newsreaders for Windows, but you
can use Outlook Express (XP) or Windows Mail (Vista) since you already have
it. Here are some links to information about newsgroups:

About Usenet:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/ - Usenet FAQs from the Internet FAQ Archives
http://www.usenetmonster.com/infocenter/
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet - a brief explanation
of newsgroups

Outlook Express/Windows Mail as Newsreader:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/outloo...snewreader.htm
http://rickrogers.org/setupoe.htm
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/accessi...ndows_mail.htm

How to Post:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 - How to Ask a Question
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.htm - How Not to Get Technical Help on
Usenet
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://aumha.org/nntp.htm - list of MS newsgroups
microsoft.public.test.here - MS group to test if your newsreader is working
properly
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/munad.htm - how to munge email address
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting - crossposting
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm - multiposting

Other Newsreaders for Windows:
http://www.forteinc.com/main/homepage.php - Forte
http://www.mozilla.org - Thunderbird
http://gravity.tbates.org/
http://www.40tude.com/dialog/
http://xnews.newsguy.com/

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

PA Bear [MS MVP]

A few points to add to my colleague Malke's comments:

The person who started this thread (Original Poster or OP) and who was
having the problem (possibly due to a Win32/Rustock.gen!C infection; cf.
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a61b8d82f36160)
hasn't been heard from since mid-August 2007, so there's little chance he'll
see your reply offering assistance.

It's highly unlikely that the OP would not have been able to successfully
install anything downloaded from the Windows Update Catalog (KB323166). And
in any event, he needed to get Windows fixed, not just install a few
updates.

A machine infected by a W32/Rustock-variant would most likely have other
infections (e.g., Zlob; SDBot; Vundo), all of which affect Windows, not just
updating. Expert assistance would be required and many steps would need to
be taken in order to get the machine clean so that updating can take place;
e.g., http://forums.spywareinfo.com/lofive...hp/t97116.html
--
~PA Bear


Barkimmy wrote:
> I know. But this is still an ongoing problem. If I ran across this thread
> looking for my problem who's to say someone else couldn't as well. Would
> this one be pulled out of the data base and never get found by query,
> (search). Perhaps you were trying to make a different point and I
> misunderstood you. After all, you found your way here after all this
> time,too. I apologize if I did something inappropriate on this site. I
> just
> figured a thread still readable, and not fully answered, was a thread
> still
> open. Let me know if I was wrong. I am still new to this site.
>
>> [This thread is from Aug-07]
>>
>> Barkimmy wrote:
>>> I believe I can help you with the failed Windows update. Apparently
>>> this
>>> has really become a common problem that I am sure they are working on.
>>> The
>>> fix is fairly easy and has been successful for me on several computers
>>> with
>>> the same problem, always different downloads continue to fail and the
>>> error
>>> codes differ. But, the problem is the same. Sometimes a Windows Update
>>> (or
>>> several) fail to install.
>>>
>>> First, go to the Windows Update site. On the left is an option to view
>>> your
>>> update history. There you will find any and all updates that have
>>> failed.
>>> Write down the KB number of the update. If you click the red button with
>>> the
>>> x near the word fail, you will get the error code. You may want to write
>>> this down just in case it could lead you to a future problem.
>>>
>>> Then take your KB numbers to:
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323166
>>>
>>> Just follow the step by step directions. It is not as hard as it sounds
>>> and
>>> it worked great for me several times.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>>>>>> Possibly related to this I have had major problems with updates
>>>>>>> downloading but not installing. For a week or so I kept getting the
>>>>>>> message that Update installer 3.1 (I think ... from memory) could
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> be installed. I Googled re this and found a workaround via regedit
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> did install the update installer, after which a number of other
>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>> could be installed, but now no longer. It keeps hanging when trying
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> install IE7 (I currently have IE6), and I need to ctrl/alt/delete
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> of it. Even when I try a custom install without IE7 it still
>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>> complete installation, and is currently frozen - I am posting this
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> another computer provided by work.
>>>>>>> I am normally a patient man, but am sorely tempted to throw a brick
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> the computer. Some unkind colleagues have suggested I install
>>>>>>> Linux,
>>>>>>> but I feel I am only moderately computer literate and not really
>>>>>>> sufficient of a nerd to do this.
>>>>>>> Any relatively simple solutions? Or would the simplest and easiest
>>>>>>> solution be to reinstall Windows and start again? - I have backed up
>>>>>>> all essential files so this wouldn't be a total disaster.
>>>>>>> HELP!
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>> TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2008 - Australia
>>>>>> ====================================
>>>>>> How to make a good post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>>>>>> Defending your machine: http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> http://taurarian.mvps.org/index.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Emails will not be acknowledged - please post to the newsgroup so all
>>>>>> may benefit.

Richard Henderson

Ah well ... just shows how wrong you can be! The original poster is still
around and did read your posts - thank you.
Largely now overtaken by events.
I did eventually get rid of the rustock virus and repaired my installation
from the original CD - just short of a reinstall.
Updates now OK, and no crashes or BSOD for quite a while, but have opted out
of IE7 updates. My broadband is provided by BTYahoo who have their own
browser (an IE6 variant) which is incomptaible (at present) with IE7.
Richard

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> A few points to add to my colleague Malke's comments:
>
> The person who started this thread (Original Poster or OP) and who was
> having the problem (possibly due to a Win32/Rustock.gen!C infection; cf.
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a61b8d82f36160)
> hasn't been heard from since mid-August 2007, so there's little chance he'll
> see your reply offering assistance.
>
> It's highly unlikely that the OP would not have been able to successfully
> install anything downloaded from the Windows Update Catalog (KB323166). And
> in any event, he needed to get Windows fixed, not just install a few
> updates.
>
> A machine infected by a W32/Rustock-variant would most likely have other
> infections (e.g., Zlob; SDBot; Vundo), all of which affect Windows, not just
> updating. Expert assistance would be required and many steps would need to
> be taken in order to get the machine clean so that updating can take place;
> e.g., http://forums.spywareinfo.com/lofive...hp/t97116.html
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> Barkimmy wrote:
> > I know. But this is still an ongoing problem. If I ran across this thread
> > looking for my problem who's to say someone else couldn't as well. Would
> > this one be pulled out of the data base and never get found by query,
> > (search). Perhaps you were trying to make a different point and I
> > misunderstood you. After all, you found your way here after all this
> > time,too. I apologize if I did something inappropriate on this site. I
> > just
> > figured a thread still readable, and not fully answered, was a thread
> > still
> > open. Let me know if I was wrong. I am still new to this site.
> >
> >> [This thread is from Aug-07]
> >>
> >> Barkimmy wrote:
> >>> I believe I can help you with the failed Windows update. Apparently
> >>> this
> >>> has really become a common problem that I am sure they are working on.
> >>> The
> >>> fix is fairly easy and has been successful for me on several computers
> >>> with
> >>> the same problem, always different downloads continue to fail and the
> >>> error
> >>> codes differ. But, the problem is the same. Sometimes a Windows Update
> >>> (or
> >>> several) fail to install.
> >>>
> >>> First, go to the Windows Update site. On the left is an option to view
> >>> your
> >>> update history. There you will find any and all updates that have
> >>> failed.
> >>> Write down the KB number of the update. If you click the red button with
> >>> the
> >>> x near the word fail, you will get the error code. You may want to write
> >>> this down just in case it could lead you to a future problem.
> >>>
> >>> Then take your KB numbers to:
> >>>
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323166
> >>>
> >>> Just follow the step by step directions. It is not as hard as it sounds
> >>> and
> >>> it worked great for me several times.
> >>>
> >>> I hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>>>>>> Possibly related to this I have had major problems with updates
> >>>>>>> downloading but not installing. For a week or so I kept getting the
> >>>>>>> message that Update installer 3.1 (I think ... from memory) could
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>> be installed. I Googled re this and found a workaround via regedit
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> did install the update installer, after which a number of other
> >>>>>>> updates
> >>>>>>> could be installed, but now no longer. It keeps hanging when trying
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> install IE7 (I currently have IE6), and I need to ctrl/alt/delete
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>> of it. Even when I try a custom install without IE7 it still
> >>>>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>>> complete installation, and is currently frozen - I am posting this
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> another computer provided by work.
> >>>>>>> I am normally a patient man, but am sorely tempted to throw a brick
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> the computer. Some unkind colleagues have suggested I install
> >>>>>>> Linux,
> >>>>>>> but I feel I am only moderately computer literate and not really
> >>>>>>> sufficient of a nerd to do this.
> >>>>>>> Any relatively simple solutions? Or would the simplest and easiest
> >>>>>>> solution be to reinstall Windows and start again? - I have backed up
> >>>>>>> all essential files so this wouldn't be a total disaster.
> >>>>>>> HELP!
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>> TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2008 - Australia
> >>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>> How to make a good post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >>>>>> Defending your machine: http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>> http://taurarian.mvps.org/index.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Emails will not be acknowledged - please post to the newsgroup so all
> >>>>>> may benefit.
>
>

BoaterDave

A fascinating insight into how matters may be construed by some, Richard! I
was pleased to hear that you have erradicated your malware without the need
for the procedures carried out by 'Banwar' on the SWI forum, cited as an
example by PA Bear.

I was impressed by Barkimmy (a fellow granddad!) taking the time and trouble
to try to help. Malke responded (I believe Malke is female) with an array of
'links' to other sites. I'd bet real money that Richard and/or Barkimmy
clicked on one or more of those links without giving it a second thought. I
once had a notion that, as this place has Microsoft in its name, someone
would be policing same. As far as I know, this is NOT so - no-one is
responsible for checking that links placed here take one to a 'safe' place.
A wonderful opportunity for 'the bad guys' to prey upon innocent folk, eh?

Here is the signature block of PA Bear, taken from AumHa.net:-

~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
AumHa VSOP, Admin & Moderator; MS MVP-Internet Explorer, Mail, Consumer
Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
Steely-eyed Missile Man, Sensei, Mule Skinner & Smart Alex


Wlth so many folk visiting AumHa for assistance with Malware erradication, I
cannot help wondering why Robear cited a Spywareinfo site for his example,
rather than one from AumHa. Perhaps Robear will explain why we should trust
others when they tell us to download 'unknown' programmes onto our machines
without us having any idea what effect they might have.

Dave

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"Richard Henderson" <RichardHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message news:9933CFEF-CA4D-49F3-928B-94DCA4A21F7A@microsoft.com...
> Ah well ... just shows how wrong you can be! The original poster is still
> around and did read your posts - thank you.
> Largely now overtaken by events.
> I did eventually get rid of the rustock virus and repaired my installation
> from the original CD - just short of a reinstall.
> Updates now OK, and no crashes or BSOD for quite a while, but have opted
> out
> of IE7 updates. My broadband is provided by BTYahoo who have their own
> browser (an IE6 variant) which is incomptaible (at present) with IE7.
> Richard

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What's in a Name?

"BoaterDave" <BoaterDave@nospam.invalid> after much thought,came up
with this jewel in news:uGk0zJBiIHA.5900@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl:

> A fascinating insight into how matters may be construed by some,
> Richard! I was pleased to hear that you have erradicated your
> malware without the need for the procedures carried out by
> 'Banwar' on the SWI forum, cited as an example by PA Bear.

You're not trolling for Bear, are you dave?

> I was impressed by Barkimmy (a fellow granddad!) taking the time
> and trouble to try to help.

Chances were good that it was a waste of bandwidth since many posters
do not "take the time and trouble" to follow-up.

> Malke responded (I believe Malke is
> female) with an array of 'links' to other sites. I'd bet real
> money that Richard and/or Barkimmy clicked on one or more of those
> links without giving it a second thought. I once had a notion

I'll bet those two brain cells were pissed off!!!

> that, as this place has Microsoft in its name, someone would be
> policing same. As far as I know, this is NOT so - no-one is
> responsible for checking that links placed here take one to a
> 'safe' place. A wonderful opportunity for 'the bad guys' to prey
> upon innocent folk, eh?

This is a free, public forum. Even you are allowed to post here.
Messages are not "approved" before posting but some have been removed
from the MS servers for "bad" content and still remain on other
servers.


> Here is the signature block of PA Bear, taken from AumHa.net:-
>
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> AumHa VSOP, Admin & Moderator; MS MVP-Internet Explorer, Mail,
> Consumer Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> Steely-eyed Missile Man, Sensei, Mule Skinner & Smart Alex

and what is your sig? troll wanabe????

>
>
> Wlth so many folk visiting AumHa for assistance with Malware
> erradication, I cannot help wondering why Robear cited a
> Spywareinfo site for his example, rather than one from AumHa.

Could be simple, it was the first entry using google?

> Perhaps Robear will explain why we should trust others when they
> tell us to download 'unknown' programmes onto our machines without
> us having any idea what effect they might have.

Who to trust? An age-old question.(or is that old-age)

>
> Dave

is this supposed to be some kind of delimiter????
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> "Richard Henderson" <RichardHenderson@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote in message
> news:9933CFEF-CA4D-49F3-928B-94DCA4A21F7A@microsoft.com...
>> Ah well ... just shows how wrong you can be! The original poster
>> is still around and did read your posts - thank you.
>> Largely now overtaken by events.
>> I did eventually get rid of the rustock virus and repaired my
>> installation from the original CD - just short of a reinstall.
>> Updates now OK, and no crashes or BSOD for quite a while, but
>> have opted out
>> of IE7 updates. My broadband is provided by BTYahoo who have
>> their own browser (an IE6 variant) which is incomptaible (at
>> present) with IE7. Richard
>
> <snip>

max
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I was lost,but now I'm blind.

Barkimmy

When I replied to the post I realized that the original poster had made
his/her question in 2 or more parts. As his/her W32/Rustock question had been
answered, and I had not run across that as of yet, I didn't see any reason
for me to answer that part. But I did notice that his/her question about not
being able to install some updates had not been answered yet. I had run
across that one, on several computers, each with different updates being
obstinate and each coming up with a different error code. I was able to
manually download and install the troublesome updates and solved that problem
on each computer that I found it on.


--
When you have 15 grandchildren you don''t let a persnickity obnoxious
computer get you down. There are times I wish I could just reboot the kids,
though.


"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:

> A few points to add to my colleague Malke's comments:
>
> The person who started this thread (Original Poster or OP) and who was
> having the problem (possibly due to a Win32/Rustock.gen!C infection; cf.
> http://groups.google.com/group/micro...a61b8d82f36160)
> hasn't been heard from since mid-August 2007, so there's little chance he'll
> see your reply offering assistance.
>
> It's highly unlikely that the OP would not have been able to successfully
> install anything downloaded from the Windows Update Catalog (KB323166). And
> in any event, he needed to get Windows fixed, not just install a few
> updates.
>
> A machine infected by a W32/Rustock-variant would most likely have other
> infections (e.g., Zlob; SDBot; Vundo), all of which affect Windows, not just
> updating. Expert assistance would be required and many steps would need to
> be taken in order to get the machine clean so that updating can take place;
> e.g., http://forums.spywareinfo.com/lofive...hp/t97116.html
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> Barkimmy wrote:
> > I know. But this is still an ongoing problem. If I ran across this thread
> > looking for my problem who's to say someone else couldn't as well. Would
> > this one be pulled out of the data base and never get found by query,
> > (search). Perhaps you were trying to make a different point and I
> > misunderstood you. After all, you found your way here after all this
> > time,too. I apologize if I did something inappropriate on this site. I
> > just
> > figured a thread still readable, and not fully answered, was a thread
> > still
> > open. Let me know if I was wrong. I am still new to this site.
> >
> >> [This thread is from Aug-07]
> >>
> >> Barkimmy wrote:
> >>> I believe I can help you with the failed Windows update. Apparently
> >>> this
> >>> has really become a common problem that I am sure they are working on.
> >>> The
> >>> fix is fairly easy and has been successful for me on several computers
> >>> with
> >>> the same problem, always different downloads continue to fail and the
> >>> error
> >>> codes differ. But, the problem is the same. Sometimes a Windows Update
> >>> (or
> >>> several) fail to install.
> >>>
> >>> First, go to the Windows Update site. On the left is an option to view
> >>> your
> >>> update history. There you will find any and all updates that have
> >>> failed.
> >>> Write down the KB number of the update. If you click the red button with
> >>> the
> >>> x near the word fail, you will get the error code. You may want to write
> >>> this down just in case it could lead you to a future problem.
> >>>
> >>> Then take your KB numbers to:
> >>>
> >>> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=323166
> >>>
> >>> Just follow the step by step directions. It is not as hard as it sounds
> >>> and
> >>> it worked great for me several times.
> >>>
> >>> I hope this helps.
> >>>
> >>>>>>> Possibly related to this I have had major problems with updates
> >>>>>>> downloading but not installing. For a week or so I kept getting the
> >>>>>>> message that Update installer 3.1 (I think ... from memory) could
> >>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>> be installed. I Googled re this and found a workaround via regedit
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> did install the update installer, after which a number of other
> >>>>>>> updates
> >>>>>>> could be installed, but now no longer. It keeps hanging when trying
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> install IE7 (I currently have IE6), and I need to ctrl/alt/delete
> >>>>>>> out
> >>>>>>> of it. Even when I try a custom install without IE7 it still
> >>>>>>> doesn't
> >>>>>>> complete installation, and is currently frozen - I am posting this
> >>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>> another computer provided by work.
> >>>>>>> I am normally a patient man, but am sorely tempted to throw a brick
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> the computer. Some unkind colleagues have suggested I install
> >>>>>>> Linux,
> >>>>>>> but I feel I am only moderately computer literate and not really
> >>>>>>> sufficient of a nerd to do this.
> >>>>>>> Any relatively simple solutions? Or would the simplest and easiest
> >>>>>>> solution be to reinstall Windows and start again? - I have backed up
> >>>>>>> all essential files so this wouldn't be a total disaster.
> >>>>>>> HELP!
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>> TaurArian [MS-MVP] 2005-2008 - Australia
> >>>>>> ====================================
> >>>>>> How to make a good post: http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> >>>>>> Defending your machine: http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
> >>>>>> http://taurarian.mvps.org/index.htm
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Emails will not be acknowledged - please post to the newsgroup so all
> >>>>>> may benefit.
>
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