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Unread 28-08-2007, 03:36 AM   #1
markm75
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chkdsk /f replacing security ids with default ones (lots of them)

I had errors trying to do an acronis backup of our D partition raid 5
array.. it was stating the drive may contain errors.. so I ran chkdsk/
f..

Its reporting:

"replacing invalid security id with default security id for file xxxx"
over and over..

It then says fixing mirror copy of the security descriptors data
stream.

Chkdsk discovered free space marked as allocated in the master file
table (MFT) bitmap.. etc

Is this type of security error normal.. I find it hard to believe
there could be anything wrong with a fairly new and stable raid5
array.

Thanks

 
Unread 28-08-2007, 03:36 AM   #2
Dave Patrick
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Re: chkdsk /f replacing security ids with default ones (lots of them)

Maybe this one helps.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=873437

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

"markm75" wrote:
>I had errors trying to do an acronis backup of our D partition raid 5
> array.. it was stating the drive may contain errors.. so I ran chkdsk/
> f..
>
> Its reporting:
>
> "replacing invalid security id with default security id for file xxxx"
> over and over..
>
> It then says fixing mirror copy of the security descriptors data
> stream.
>
> Chkdsk discovered free space marked as allocated in the master file
> table (MFT) bitmap.. etc
>
> Is this type of security error normal.. I find it hard to believe
> there could be anything wrong with a fairly new and stable raid5
> array.
>
> Thanks
>

 
Unread 28-08-2007, 03:36 AM   #3
markm75
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Re: chkdsk /f replacing security ids with default ones (lots of them)

On Jun 28, 11:14 pm, "Dave Patrick" <DSPatr...@nospam.gmail.com>
wrote:
> Maybe this one helps.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=873437
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
>
> "markm75" wrote:
> >I had errors trying to do an acronis backup of our D partition raid 5
> > array.. it was stating the drive may contain errors.. so I ran chkdsk/
> > f..

>
> > Its reporting:

>
> > "replacing invalid security id with default security id for file xxxx"
> > over and over..

>
> > It then says fixing mirror copy of the security descriptors data
> > stream.

>
> > Chkdsk discovered free space marked as allocated in the master file
> > table (MFT) bitmap.. etc

>
> > Is this type of security error normal.. I find it hard to believe
> > there could be anything wrong with a fairly new and stable raid5
> > array.

>
> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thats for Windows 2000.. I'm 2003 sp2.


 
Unread 28-08-2007, 03:36 AM   #4
markm75
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Re: chkdsk /f replacing security ids with default ones (lots of them)

On Jun 28, 11:14 pm, "Dave Patrick" <DSPatr...@nospam.gmail.com>
wrote:
> Maybe this one helps.
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=873437
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
>
> "markm75" wrote:
> >I had errors trying to do an acronis backup of our D partition raid 5
> > array.. it was stating the drive may contain errors.. so I ran chkdsk/
> > f..

>
> > Its reporting:

>
> > "replacing invalid security id with default security id for file xxxx"
> > over and over..

>
> > It then says fixing mirror copy of the security descriptors data
> > stream.

>
> > Chkdsk discovered free space marked as allocated in the master file
> > table (MFT) bitmap.. etc

>
> > Is this type of security error normal.. I find it hard to believe
> > there could be anything wrong with a fairly new and stable raid5
> > array.

>
> > Thanks- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -


Thats for Windows 2000.. I'm 2003 sp2.


 
Unread 28-08-2007, 03:42 AM   #5
markm75
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Re: chkdsk /f replacing security ids with default ones (lots of them)

On Jun 29, 8:30 am, markm75 <markm...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 11:14 pm, "Dave Patrick" <DSPatr...@nospam.gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Maybe this one helps.

>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=873437

>
> > --

>
> > Regards,

>
> > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> > Microsoft Certified Professional
> > Microsoft MVP [Windows]http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>
> > "markm75" wrote:
> > >I had errors trying to do an acronis backup of our D partition raid 5
> > > array.. it was stating the drive may contain errors.. so I ran chkdsk/
> > > f..

>
> > > Its reporting:

>
> > > "replacing invalid security id with default security id for file xxxx"
> > > over and over..

>
> > > It then says fixing mirror copy of the security descriptors data
> > > stream.

>
> > > Chkdsk discovered free space marked as allocated in the master file
> > > table (MFT) bitmap.. etc

>
> > > Is this type of security error normal.. I find it hard to believe
> > > there could be anything wrong with a fairly new and stable raid5
> > > array.

>
> > > Thanks- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Thats for Windows 2000.. I'm 2003 sp2.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Noone else out there have any thoughts or run into this before?


 
Unread 28-08-2007, 03:42 AM   #6
markm75
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Re: chkdsk /f replacing security ids with default ones (lots of them)

On Jun 29, 8:30 am, markm75 <markm...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 11:14 pm, "Dave Patrick" <DSPatr...@nospam.gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Maybe this one helps.

>
> >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=873437

>
> > --

>
> > Regards,

>
> > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> > Microsoft Certified Professional
> > Microsoft MVP [Windows]http://www.microsoft.com/protect

>
> > "markm75" wrote:
> > >I had errors trying to do an acronis backup of our D partition raid 5
> > > array.. it was stating the drive may contain errors.. so I ran chkdsk/
> > > f..

>
> > > Its reporting:

>
> > > "replacing invalid security id with default security id for file xxxx"
> > > over and over..

>
> > > It then says fixing mirror copy of the security descriptors data
> > > stream.

>
> > > Chkdsk discovered free space marked as allocated in the master file
> > > table (MFT) bitmap.. etc

>
> > > Is this type of security error normal.. I find it hard to believe
> > > there could be anything wrong with a fairly new and stable raid5
> > > array.

>
> > > Thanks- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Thats for Windows 2000.. I'm 2003 sp2.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Noone else out there have any thoughts or run into this before?


 
Unread 18-09-2007, 05:00 AM   #7
JohnB2
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Re: chkdsk /f replacing security ids with default ones (lots of th

I have had this problem happen twice, once about six months ago and most
recently on 9/14/2007. Each time it had disastrous results, with CHKDSK
corrupting operating system files. In each case, the computer ran fine
before CHKDSK was used, but ended up crippled. The first time, the computer
stopped working completely, and I had to restore a previous ghost image of
the drive to get it going again. I also changed the hard drive. In the most
recent case (a few days ago), Windows XP Home would run, but programs didn't
work, I could not copy files, services wouldn't start (RPC, other), and even
System Restore would not work. I was able to manually restore the system to
a few days prior to the incident, but that did not improve things. The same
laptop was involved both times, with a fully up-to-date Windows XP SP2
installation, but two completely different hard drives. I am beginning to
think that CHKDSK has turned to the dark side.

Microsoft posted a "hotfix" for windows 2003 Server for a similar sounding
CHDKSK problem that occurs when the computer has 4 million files.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=873434

When I contacted Microsoft to receive this hotfix, I was informed that there
isn't one for Windows XP Home. In my case, the laptop had only 71,000 files,
not 4 million, so it isn't clear that the hotfix would help anyway. Also,
they claim that the hotfix is a preventative measure but does not repair the
damage done after CHKDSK has corrupted files.

I would appreciate anyone who could shed more light on this problem. I have
restored the laptop again, so I am up and running. However, I am afraid to
use CHKDSK now, since it can cripple a working computer. I have noticed
several other recent posts from others having this problem , although their
experience with this problem seems to have been less disastrous. I do not
know if Microsoft is awake to this issue yet -- they don't seem to be.

JohnB2

"markm75" wrote:

> On Jun 29, 8:30 am, markm75 <markm...@msn.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 28, 11:14 pm, "Dave Patrick" <DSPatr...@nospam.gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Maybe this one helps.

> >
> > >http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=873437

> >
> > > --

> >
> > > Regards,

> >
> > > Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> > > Microsoft Certified Professional
> > > Microsoft MVP [Windows]http://www.microsoft.com/protect

> >
> > > "markm75" wrote:
> > > >I had errors trying to do an acronis backup of our D partition raid 5
> > > > array.. it was stating the drive may contain errors.. so I ran chkdsk/
> > > > f..

> >
> > > > Its reporting:

> >
> > > > "replacing invalid security id with default security id for file xxxx"
> > > > over and over..

> >
> > > > It then says fixing mirror copy of the security descriptors data
> > > > stream.

> >
> > > > Chkdsk discovered free space marked as allocated in the master file
> > > > table (MFT) bitmap.. etc

> >
> > > > Is this type of security error normal.. I find it hard to believe
> > > > there could be anything wrong with a fairly new and stable raid5
> > > > array.

> >
> > > > Thanks- Hide quoted text -

> >
> > > - Show quoted text -

> >
> > Thats for Windows 2000.. I'm 2003 sp2.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Noone else out there have any thoughts or run into this before?
>
>
>

 
 

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