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ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
We are running ADAM on W2k3 R2 in a DMZ not joined to the domain. We have it
syncing with one domain controller. Since it was set in place the incremental synchs (/sync) appear to be failing approx after 30 days from the full sync. The incremental sync is set as a scheduled task on the ADAM server. As I mentioned, it works perfectly after the full sync and continues to work for another 30 days. But then on day 31, the sync log does not show any new data, on the same data from the last successful sync. Its weird. Are we suppose to do a full sync every 30 days or should the initial full sync be the only one and the incremental sync work there after? Any ideas? TIA. |
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Re: ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
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what sync mechanism are you using, ADAMSync? What command do you run for the incremental? Does it sync if you run it outside of task scheduler? Lee Flight "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:4B3AC1C7-47EE-4785-A100-578B994E5A8C@microsoft.com... > We are running ADAM on W2k3 R2 in a DMZ not joined to the domain. We have > it > syncing with one domain controller. Since it was set in place the > incremental synchs (/sync) appear to be failing approx after 30 days from > the > full sync. > > The incremental sync is set as a scheduled task on the ADAM server. As I > mentioned, it works perfectly after the full sync and continues to work > for > another 30 days. But then on day 31, the sync log does not show any new > data, on the same data from the last successful sync. > > Its weird. Are we suppose to do a full sync every 30 days or should the > initial full sync be the only one and the incremental sync work there > after? > > Any ideas? > > TIA. |
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Re: ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
Thanks for the reply Lee. We are using ADAMsync to sync. The scheduled task
runs once an hour from 530am to 730pm M-F and is: adamsync /sync localhost:389 "dc=domain,dc=com) /log sync_log.log As I mentioned below, when the 31 first day is reached, the sync log does not contain any new data, just keeps re-writing the data from the last successful sync. When I tried to do the manual sync this morning, I got "LDAP error occurred." when I specified: adamsync /sync <adamserver>:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" Next I tried using localhost and got some message about the active ADAM instance is running on <adamserver>. So I tried to bind using lap and could not bind, even though the account we use to bind with is set to not expire or lock (msds-user-account-control-computed:66048). The weird thing is I was able to do a manual full sync without any issues. Once that completed I changed a sync'd attribute on my account, waited for the scheduled incremental sync to happen and it pulled it across fine. Before the full sync, we had numerous new accounts that we created in AD and did not sync'd until the full sync. "Lee Flight" wrote: > Hi > > what sync mechanism are you using, ADAMSync? What command do you run for the > incremental? Does it sync if you run it outside of task scheduler? > > Lee Flight > > "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:4B3AC1C7-47EE-4785-A100-578B994E5A8C@microsoft.com... > > We are running ADAM on W2k3 R2 in a DMZ not joined to the domain. We have > > it > > syncing with one domain controller. Since it was set in place the > > incremental synchs (/sync) appear to be failing approx after 30 days from > > the > > full sync. > > > > The incremental sync is set as a scheduled task on the ADAM server. As I > > mentioned, it works perfectly after the full sync and continues to work > > for > > another 30 days. But then on day 31, the sync log does not show any new > > data, on the same data from the last successful sync. > > > > Its weird. Are we suppose to do a full sync every 30 days or should the > > initial full sync be the only one and the incremental sync work there > > after? > > > > Any ideas? > > > > TIA. > > > |
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Re: ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
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sorry for the delay, more inline below... "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:13D7859F-CA8A-4C0B-8B0D-2DB350C29F49@microsoft.com... > Thanks for the reply Lee. We are using ADAMsync to sync. The scheduled > task > runs once an hour from 530am to 730pm M-F and is: adamsync /sync > localhost:389 "dc=domain,dc=com) /log sync_log.log > > As I mentioned below, when the 31 first day is reached, the sync log does > not contain any new data, just keeps re-writing the data from the last > successful sync. > > When I tried to do the manual sync this morning, I got "LDAP error > occurred." when I specified: adamsync /sync <adamserver>:389 > "dc=domain,dc=com" Do you get any (fuller) error if you run with /log. Also is there anything in the ADAM instance event log when this error occurs? You could also try running adamsync /ces <adamserver>:389 to see if there is an error message recorded. > Next I tried using localhost and got some message about the active ADAM > instance is running on <adamserver>. Would be good to see the exact message again with any corresponding event log messages > So I tried to bind using lap and could not bind, even though the account > we > use to bind with is set to not expire or lock > (msds-user-account-control-computed:66048). Is that userAccountControl or msds-user-account-control-computed, they are not quite the same IIRC I think you can have userAccountControl of 66048 but the account locked as shown by msds-user-account-control-computed (this covers lockout and expiry) http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305144 With account logon (success/failure) audit on the server and your DC (this is a windows domain account?) checking the local and DC security event logs when stuck in failure mode might give a clue. > The weird thing is I was able to do a manual full sync without any issues. > Once that completed I changed a sync'd attribute on my account, waited for > the scheduled incremental sync to happen and it pulled it across fine. > Before the full sync, we had numerous new accounts that we created in AD > and > did not sync'd until the full sync. This is weird, did you re-enter the account password when performing the full sync? Basically full sync resets the DirSync cookie in the ADAMSync configuration that is stored in the ADAM instance and then just runs the sync....Is there anything in the security event logs (ADAM server and DC) to indicate the success of the authentication associated with the full sync? I think to debug this would require active review of the event logs for Application, ADAM instance and Security on the ADAM server as well as review of the security log on your DCs to check for account status events, kerberos ticket expiry etc. as first pass. Depending on you available effort it might be that you just choose to schedule a full sync for every 30 days and live with the "issue". Thanks Lee Flight |
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Re: ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
Lee,
Here are the results of what you suggested and the exact error message received when using the adamsync command: C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync localhost:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" Warning: The current authoritative ADAM instance is <adamserver>:389. Ldap error occured. C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync <adamserver>:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" Ldap error occured. C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /ces <adamserver>:389 Listing configuration files: --------------------------- Last Sync Attempt Time: 20080320125740.0Z Last Sync Success Time: 20080320125753.0Z Last Sync Error Time: 20080320125753.0Z Last Sync Error String: Ldap error occured. Done. As you can see not much to go on. Also, the event logs do not show anything at all, nada. No errors, no warning, etc. In fact, the last entry in the ADAM log was from last night listing the online defrag information entry. When I mentioned the account status, it is the msds-user-account-control-computed attribute. This is set to not expire or lock since it is the 'bind' account used for the sync's. This account also is not a member of the domain, nor is the adam server. With regards to the full sync, I did not use passprompt, merely swapped /sync with /fs and away it went successfully. Any attempt to manually initiate an incremental (/sync) sync err's. THe scheduled task keeps coming back with a Result of 0x0, indicating that it ran successfully, whether it does or not. I'm at a loss right now. "Lee Flight" wrote: > Hi > > sorry for the delay, more inline below... > > "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:13D7859F-CA8A-4C0B-8B0D-2DB350C29F49@microsoft.com... > > Thanks for the reply Lee. We are using ADAMsync to sync. The scheduled > > task > > runs once an hour from 530am to 730pm M-F and is: adamsync /sync > > localhost:389 "dc=domain,dc=com) /log sync_log.log > > > > As I mentioned below, when the 31 first day is reached, the sync log does > > not contain any new data, just keeps re-writing the data from the last > > successful sync. > > > > When I tried to do the manual sync this morning, I got "LDAP error > > occurred." when I specified: adamsync /sync <adamserver>:389 > > "dc=domain,dc=com" > > Do you get any (fuller) error if you run with /log. Also is there anything > in the ADAM instance event log when this error occurs? > You could also try running adamsync /ces <adamserver>:389 to see if there is > an error message recorded. > > > Next I tried using localhost and got some message about the active ADAM > > instance is running on <adamserver>. > > Would be good to see the exact message again with any corresponding event > log > messages > > > So I tried to bind using lap and could not bind, even though the account > > we > > use to bind with is set to not expire or lock > > (msds-user-account-control-computed:66048). > > Is that userAccountControl or msds-user-account-control-computed, they are > not quite the same IIRC I think you can have userAccountControl of 66048 > but the account locked as shown by msds-user-account-control-computed (this > covers lockout and expiry) > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/305144 > > With account logon (success/failure) audit on the server and your DC (this > is a windows domain account?) checking the local and DC security event logs > when stuck in failure mode might give a clue. > > > The weird thing is I was able to do a manual full sync without any issues. > > Once that completed I changed a sync'd attribute on my account, waited for > > the scheduled incremental sync to happen and it pulled it across fine. > > Before the full sync, we had numerous new accounts that we created in AD > > and > > did not sync'd until the full sync. > > This is weird, did you re-enter the account password when performing the > full sync? > Basically full sync resets the DirSync cookie in the ADAMSync configuration > that is stored in the ADAM instance and then just runs the sync....Is there > anything in the security event logs (ADAM server and DC) to indicate the > success of the authentication associated with the full sync? > > I think to debug this would require active review of the event logs for > Application, ADAM instance and Security on the ADAM server as well as review > of the security log on your DCs to check for account status events, kerberos > ticket expiry etc. as first pass. Depending on you available effort it > might be that you just choose to schedule a full sync for every 30 days and > live with the "issue". > > Thanks > Lee Flight > > > |
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Re: ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
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so the /sync works OK after you have performed a full sync? More inline below... "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:B8836919-1066-4424-ADAC-BBE2CAE05CC0@microsoft.com... > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync localhost:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" > Warning: The current authoritative ADAM instance is <adamserver>:389. That warning is likely because your ADAM instance is a member of a configuration (replica) set, the recommendation is always to sync to the same ADAM instance. > Ldap error occured. > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync <adamserver>:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" > Ldap error occured. > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /ces <adamserver>:389 > Listing configuration files: > --------------------------- > Last Sync Attempt Time: 20080320125740.0Z > Last Sync Success Time: 20080320125753.0Z > Last Sync Error Time: 20080320125753.0Z > Last Sync Error String: Ldap error occured. Done. If you are in a position where the /sync fails perhaps you could try bumping diagnostics on the ADAM instance... Assuming that your ADAM instance has service name ADAM_instance1 then under: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\ADAM_instance1\Diagnos*tics Edit the value 16 LDAP Interface Events and set it to 5 and then run the /sync. Check ADAM instance event log for errors. *Remember* to reset the registry value to 0 when done. > When I mentioned the account status, it is the > msds-user-account-control-computed attribute. This is set to not expire > or > lock since it is the 'bind' account used for the sync's. This account > also > is not a member of the domain, nor is the adam server. So this is a standalone ADAM server? Presumably the sync has stored credentials for an account that has access to your AD? The account that you run the scheduled task with is a windows account local to the ADAM server that has Admin rights on the ADAM instance? > With regards to the full sync, I did not use passprompt, merely swapped > /sync with /fs and away it went successfully. Very odd maybe it's a bug with the cookie mechanism but it's hard for me to join that with the 30 day window. Lee Flight |
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Re: ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
Hi Lee,
Answers in order: > so the /sync works OK after you have performed a full sync? Only when it set as a scheduled task does it work. Manually, it err's out as mentioned below. > So this is a standalone ADAM server? Yes, in the DMZ, not part of the domain. >Presumably the sync has stored credentials for an account that has access to your AD? Yes, the 'eve' account has one way access to the DC in the domain to initialize a sync. >The account that you run the scheduled task with is a windows account local to >the ADAM server that has Admin rights on the ADAM instance? Yes, the local admin account is running the scheduled task. I'll bump up the diag loggin level and see if anything pops up. Thanks, Ken "Lee Flight" wrote: > Hi > > so the /sync works OK after you have performed a full sync? > More inline below... > > > "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B8836919-1066-4424-ADAC-BBE2CAE05CC0@microsoft.com... > > > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync localhost:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" > > Warning: The current authoritative ADAM instance is <adamserver>:389. > > That warning is likely because your ADAM instance is a member of a > configuration (replica) set, the recommendation is always to sync to the > same ADAM instance. > > > Ldap error occured. > > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync <adamserver>:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" > > Ldap error occured. > > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /ces <adamserver>:389 > > Listing configuration files: > > --------------------------- > > Last Sync Attempt Time: 20080320125740.0Z > > Last Sync Success Time: 20080320125753.0Z > > Last Sync Error Time: 20080320125753.0Z > > Last Sync Error String: Ldap error occured. Done. > > If you are in a position where the /sync fails perhaps you could try bumping > diagnostics on the ADAM instance... > Assuming that your ADAM instance has service name ADAM_instance1 then > under: > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\ADAM_instance1\DiagnosÂ*tics > > Edit the value > 16 LDAP Interface Events > and set it to 5 > > and then run the /sync. Check ADAM instance event log for errors. > *Remember* to reset the registry value to 0 when done. > > > When I mentioned the account status, it is the > > msds-user-account-control-computed attribute. This is set to not expire > > or > > lock since it is the 'bind' account used for the sync's. This account > > also > > is not a member of the domain, nor is the adam server. > > So this is a standalone ADAM server? Presumably the sync has stored > credentials > for an account that has access to your AD? The account that you run the > scheduled task > with is a windows account local to the ADAM server that has Admin rights on > the ADAM instance? > > > With regards to the full sync, I did not use passprompt, merely swapped > > /sync with /fs and away it went successfully. > > Very odd maybe it's a bug with the cookie mechanism but it's hard for me to > join that with the 30 day window. > > Lee Flight > > > |
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Re: ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
Lee,
After turning up the diag logging, all the events listed were wither 1138 or 1139, stating that an ldap_search was entered and ended. However, I did find one different event that still came across as an Informative entry: Event Type: Information Event Source: ADAM [name] LDAP Event Category: LDAP Interface Event ID: 1535 Date: 3/20/2008 Time: 11:27:22 AM User: <adamserver>\Administrator Computer: <adamserver> Description: Internal event: The LDAP server returned an error. Additional Data Error value: 00002089: UpdErr: DSID-031B0CBD, problem 5012 (DIR_ERROR), data 2 Other than this, I got nothing. "Lee Flight" wrote: > Hi > > so the /sync works OK after you have performed a full sync? > More inline below... > > > "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:B8836919-1066-4424-ADAC-BBE2CAE05CC0@microsoft.com... > > > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync localhost:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" > > Warning: The current authoritative ADAM instance is <adamserver>:389. > > That warning is likely because your ADAM instance is a member of a > configuration (replica) set, the recommendation is always to sync to the > same ADAM instance. > > > Ldap error occured. > > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync <adamserver>:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" > > Ldap error occured. > > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /ces <adamserver>:389 > > Listing configuration files: > > --------------------------- > > Last Sync Attempt Time: 20080320125740.0Z > > Last Sync Success Time: 20080320125753.0Z > > Last Sync Error Time: 20080320125753.0Z > > Last Sync Error String: Ldap error occured. Done. > > If you are in a position where the /sync fails perhaps you could try bumping > diagnostics on the ADAM instance... > Assuming that your ADAM instance has service name ADAM_instance1 then > under: > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\ADAM_instance1\DiagnosÂ*tics > > Edit the value > 16 LDAP Interface Events > and set it to 5 > > and then run the /sync. Check ADAM instance event log for errors. > *Remember* to reset the registry value to 0 when done. > > > When I mentioned the account status, it is the > > msds-user-account-control-computed attribute. This is set to not expire > > or > > lock since it is the 'bind' account used for the sync's. This account > > also > > is not a member of the domain, nor is the adam server. > > So this is a standalone ADAM server? Presumably the sync has stored > credentials > for an account that has access to your AD? The account that you run the > scheduled task > with is a windows account local to the ADAM server that has Admin rights on > the ADAM instance? > > > With regards to the full sync, I did not use passprompt, merely swapped > > /sync with /fs and away it went successfully. > > Very odd maybe it's a bug with the cookie mechanism but it's hard for me to > join that with the 30 day window. > > Lee Flight > > > |
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Re: ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
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could you also add audit of logon failures to the local security policy on the ADAM server if you do not have this on by default? Thanks Lee Flight "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F7C1D227-D7E5-4276-954F-663213D95309@microsoft.com... > Hi Lee, > > Answers in order: > >> so the /sync works OK after you have performed a full sync? > Only when it set as a scheduled task does it work. Manually, it err's out > as mentioned below. > >> So this is a standalone ADAM server? > Yes, in the DMZ, not part of the domain. > >>Presumably the sync has stored credentials for an account that has access >>to your AD? Yes, the 'eve' account has one way access to the DC in the >>domain to initialize a sync. > >>The account that you run the scheduled task with is a windows account >>local to >the ADAM server that has Admin rights on the ADAM instance? > Yes, the local admin account is running the scheduled task. > > I'll bump up the diag loggin level and see if anything pops up. > > Thanks, > > Ken > > > > "Lee Flight" wrote: > >> Hi >> >> so the /sync works OK after you have performed a full sync? >> More inline below... >> >> >> "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:B8836919-1066-4424-ADAC-BBE2CAE05CC0@microsoft.com... >> >> > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync localhost:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" >> > Warning: The current authoritative ADAM instance is <adamserver>:389. >> >> That warning is likely because your ADAM instance is a member of a >> configuration (replica) set, the recommendation is always to sync to the >> same ADAM instance. >> >> > Ldap error occured. >> > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync <adamserver>:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" >> > Ldap error occured. >> > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /ces <adamserver>:389 >> > Listing configuration files: >> > --------------------------- >> > Last Sync Attempt Time: 20080320125740.0Z >> > Last Sync Success Time: 20080320125753.0Z >> > Last Sync Error Time: 20080320125753.0Z >> > Last Sync Error String: Ldap error occured. Done. >> >> If you are in a position where the /sync fails perhaps you could try >> bumping >> diagnostics on the ADAM instance... >> Assuming that your ADAM instance has service name ADAM_instance1 then >> under: >> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\ADAM_instance1\Diagnos*tics >> >> Edit the value >> 16 LDAP Interface Events >> and set it to 5 >> >> and then run the /sync. Check ADAM instance event log for errors. >> *Remember* to reset the registry value to 0 when done. >> >> > When I mentioned the account status, it is the >> > msds-user-account-control-computed attribute. This is set to not >> > expire >> > or >> > lock since it is the 'bind' account used for the sync's. This account >> > also >> > is not a member of the domain, nor is the adam server. >> >> So this is a standalone ADAM server? Presumably the sync has stored >> credentials >> for an account that has access to your AD? The account that you run the >> scheduled task >> with is a windows account local to the ADAM server that has Admin rights >> on >> the ADAM instance? >> >> > With regards to the full sync, I did not use passprompt, merely swapped >> > /sync with /fs and away it went successfully. >> >> Very odd maybe it's a bug with the cookie mechanism but it's hard for me >> to >> join that with the 30 day window. >> >> Lee Flight >> >> >> |
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Re: ADAM full sync needed every 30 days??????
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do you get one of those errors per manual sync attempt? Thanks Lee Flight "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:288DFA17-F0D6-4417-92F1-A1C573BC6759@microsoft.com... > Lee, > > After turning up the diag logging, all the events listed were wither 1138 > or > 1139, stating that an ldap_search was entered and ended. > However, I did find one different event that still came across as an > Informative entry: > Event Type: Information > Event Source: ADAM [name] LDAP > Event Category: LDAP Interface > Event ID: 1535 > Date: 3/20/2008 > Time: 11:27:22 AM > User: <adamserver>\Administrator > Computer: <adamserver> > Description: > Internal event: The LDAP server returned an error. > > Additional Data > Error value: > 00002089: UpdErr: DSID-031B0CBD, problem 5012 (DIR_ERROR), data 2 > > Other than this, I got nothing. > > > "Lee Flight" wrote: > >> Hi >> >> so the /sync works OK after you have performed a full sync? >> More inline below... >> >> >> "kage13" <kage13@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message >> news:B8836919-1066-4424-ADAC-BBE2CAE05CC0@microsoft.com... >> >> > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync localhost:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" >> > Warning: The current authoritative ADAM instance is <adamserver>:389. >> >> That warning is likely because your ADAM instance is a member of a >> configuration (replica) set, the recommendation is always to sync to the >> same ADAM instance. >> >> > Ldap error occured. >> > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /sync <adamserver>:389 "dc=domain,dc=com" >> > Ldap error occured. >> > C:\WINDOWS\ADAM>adamsync /ces <adamserver>:389 >> > Listing configuration files: >> > --------------------------- >> > Last Sync Attempt Time: 20080320125740.0Z >> > Last Sync Success Time: 20080320125753.0Z >> > Last Sync Error Time: 20080320125753.0Z >> > Last Sync Error String: Ldap error occured. Done. >> >> If you are in a position where the /sync fails perhaps you could try >> bumping >> diagnostics on the ADAM instance... >> Assuming that your ADAM instance has service name ADAM_instance1 then >> under: >> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\ADAM_instance1\Diagnos*tics >> >> Edit the value >> 16 LDAP Interface Events >> and set it to 5 >> >> and then run the /sync. Check ADAM instance event log for errors. >> *Remember* to reset the registry value to 0 when done. >> >> > When I mentioned the account status, it is the >> > msds-user-account-control-computed attribute. This is set to not >> > expire >> > or >> > lock since it is the 'bind' account used for the sync's. This account >> > also >> > is not a member of the domain, nor is the adam server. >> >> So this is a standalone ADAM server? Presumably the sync has stored >> credentials >> for an account that has access to your AD? The account that you run the >> scheduled task >> with is a windows account local to the ADAM server that has Admin rights >> on >> the ADAM instance? >> >> > With regards to the full sync, I did not use passprompt, merely swapped >> > /sync with /fs and away it went successfully. >> >> Very odd maybe it's a bug with the cookie mechanism but it's hard for me >> to >> join that with the 30 day window. >> >> Lee Flight >> >> >> |
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