rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com

On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
> lost.
>
> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
> drive.
>
> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>
> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>
> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>
> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>
> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>
> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
> drive without a single warning?
>
> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
> whole hard drive without warning.
>
> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>
> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/325...0396146_rs.jpg
>
> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>
> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
> drive and erase everything in it."
>
> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
> as erasing the whole hard drive.


What do you expect?
You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
your homework.

You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
interesting stuff like that.
You see, Linux is not like Windows.
Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.

You have nobody to blame but yourself.
Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.

olfart

<rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192557868.019180.120530@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>> lost.
>>
>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
>> drive.
>>
>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>
>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>
>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>
>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>> drive without a single warning?
>>
>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
>> whole hard drive without warning.
>>
>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>
>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/325...0396146_rs.jpg
>>
>> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>
>> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>> drive and erase everything in it."
>>
>> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
>> as erasing the whole hard drive.
>
>
> What do you expect?
> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
> your homework.
>
> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
> interesting stuff like that.
> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>
> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>
>
Linux is s**t
Remeber to wipe yourself before you reinstall windows

DanS

"olfart" <olfart65@excite.com> wrote in news:5nkdpcFijr2uU1
@mid.individual.net:

>
> <rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1192557868.019180.120530@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>>> lost.
>>>
>>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my
C:
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>>
>>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>>
>>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>>
>>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>>
>>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>>
>>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>>> drive without a single warning?
>>>
>>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu
erases
>>> whole hard drive without warning.
>>>
>>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>>> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>>
>>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/325...0396146_rs.jpg
>>>
>>> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>>> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>>> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>>> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>>> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>>
>>> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>>> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>>> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>>> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>>> drive and erase everything in it."
>>>
>>> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>>> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>>> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>>> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>>> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as
destructive
>>> as erasing the whole hard drive.
>>
>>
>> What do you expect?
>> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
>> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
>> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
>> your homework.
>>
>> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
>> interesting stuff like that.
>> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
>> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>>
>> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
>> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>>
>>
> Linux is s**t
> Remeber to wipe yourself before you reinstall windows

Linux has nothing to do with this particular users problem.

Guess what....Windows asks how you want to partition the drive too, so if
you have no clue as to what partitioning is or what it actually means,
you could get screwed no matter what OS you are installing.

So there's noone/thing to blame except the user in this case.

Richard Urban

In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an install when
other operating systems are already on the computer. (bait)

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)



<rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1192557868.019180.120530@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>> lost.
>>
>> After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
>> drive.
>>
>> So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>
>> I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>
>> I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>
>> I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>
>> How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>> drive without a single warning?
>>
>> Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>> work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
>> whole hard drive without warning.
>>
>> The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>> content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>> the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>
>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/325...0396146_rs.jpg
>>
>> I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>> some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>> it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>> say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>> right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>
>> When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>> choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>> entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>> already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>> drive and erase everything in it."
>>
>> Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>> about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>> skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>> thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>> spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
>> as erasing the whole hard drive.
>
>
> What do you expect?
> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
> your homework.
>
> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
> interesting stuff like that.
> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>
> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>
>
>

Frank

rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:

> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>>lost.
>>
>>After hours of trying, it really turned out I lost EVERYTHING on my C:
>>drive.
>>
>>So I had to reformat the whole C: drive, and reinstall Vista on it.
>>
>>I lost all my bookmarks, in both IE and Firefox.
>>
>>I needed to reinstall every single application.
>>
>>I needed to reinstall all security update for Vista all over again.
>>
>>I wasted at least 5, 6 hours.
>>
>>How can "Ubuntu - Humanity towards others" erases people's whole hard
>>drive without a single warning?
>>
>>Think about it, some people may lose tens or hundreds of hours of
>>work, or 4, 5 years of photos and memories, just because Ubuntu erases
>>whole hard drive without warning.
>>
>>The following is the install option snapshot: IT NEVER warns you the
>>content in drive C: will be totally erased. What's more, it is set as
>>the DEFAULT ACTION. And it says it is "GUIDED":
>>
>> http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/325...0396146_rs.jpg
>>
>>I see that intermixed at the last install info page, it is said that
>>some partition on your hard drive will get erased. But how do I know
>>it isn't some partition that Ubuntu will create for me? Why not just
>>say "it means your whole hard drive's content will be erased" -- best
>>right after people click the "partition for whole drive" option.
>>
>>When it asked "How would you like to partition your hard drive",
>>choosing "Use entire drive" seems like "Yes, I want to partition my
>>entire C: drive and just make it dual boot with whatever OS that is
>>already there". And turned out actually it means, "use my whole C
>>drive and erase everything in it."
>>
>>Humanity towards others -- yes, when you make the software, think
>>about it can be you, your children in the future, or someone not as
>>skilled as you who will be using it. People don't have time to read
>>thousands of words of warning and note for the installation. Just
>>spend a little time to warn time before doing something as destructive
>>as erasing the whole hard drive.
>
>
>
> What do you expect?
> You didn't read the mountains of documentation that come with the
> typical Linux distribution, all via Google of course.
> Before you even begin to think about installing Linux, you must do
> your homework.
>
> You must learn about partitioning, the dev structure and all kinds of
> interesting stuff like that.
> You see, Linux is not like Windows.
> Linux assumes you have a brain, which obviously you don't.
>
> You have nobody to blame but yourself.
> Next time read the How-To's and Wikis before you damage your system.
>
>
>
Oh yes....how wonderful!
Frank

Ignoramus1841

On 2007-10-16, Richard Urban <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an install when
> other operating systems are already on the computer. (bait)
>

Any install of Windows would blow away other operating systems due to
its use of bootloader, right?

i

lee h

rodolfo.garcia44@gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 16, 6:03 am, Summercool <Summercooln...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> After installing Ubuntu, it seemed that everything on my Drive C: was
>> lost.
>>

For the simplest Ubuntu install on a windows box, use Wubi
(Windows Ubuntu Installer).

"Wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users that will bring you
into the Linux world with a single click. Wubi allows you to install and
uninstall Ubuntu Linux as any other application."

http://www.download.com/3000-2098_4-10702316.html

chrisv

olfart wrote:

>Linux is

*plonk*

Snuff

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:44:34 -0500, Ignoramus1841
<ignoramus1841@NOSPAM.1841.invalid> wrote:

>On 2007-10-16, Richard Urban <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an install when
>> other operating systems are already on the computer. (bait)
>>
>
>Any install of Windows would blow away other operating systems due to
>its use of bootloader, right?
>
>i
Well not quite. Windows always overwrites the boot partition and
thereby screws grub, lilo or whatever.

However, all you need is your linux install disk and a bit of
knowledge and you can get to a command line in Linux, reinstall grub
to the boot partition and be back in business in no time.

Strangely, despite being a former penguinista, I find that Vista is
alright for me (save a few flaws with my business's web based accounts
system) and that I cannot be bothered with the challenge of how to
make linux do what I want any more. Anyway, if I want quasi unix, I
have an iMac for that sort of thing!

Ignoramus1841

On 2007-10-16, Snuff <snuffin@all2worry4.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:44:34 -0500, Ignoramus1841
><ignoramus1841@NOSPAM.1841.invalid> wrote:
>
>>On 2007-10-16, Richard Urban <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> In other words, linux is not for the average use to perform an install when
>>> other operating systems are already on the computer. (bait)
>>>
>>
>>Any install of Windows would blow away other operating systems due to
>>its use of bootloader, right?
>>
>>i
> Well not quite. Windows always overwrites the boot partition and
> thereby screws grub, lilo or whatever.
>
> However, all you need is your linux install disk and a bit of
> knowledge and you can get to a command line in Linux, reinstall grub
> to the boot partition and be back in business in no time.

Yes.

> Strangely, despite being a former penguinista, I find that Vista is
> alright for me (save a few flaws with my business's web based
> accounts system) and that I cannot be bothered with the challenge of
> how to make linux do what I want any more. Anyway, if I want quasi
> unix, I have an iMac for that sort of thing!

Mac is Unix, not quasi Unix.

Just curious, how long does it take Vista to boot?

i