Dual boot - remove one OS.

Velcroman

Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot successfully back into
Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my nonfunctional XP
installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are different, though:
Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista partition as the Active
one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a primary partition.
And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again. I feel like I'm
back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next? Should I try the
whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few more
times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put boot manager on
> your active partition. Some have had to run it several times, so run at
> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the active
> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
>
> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the Vista partition
> > the
> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an error message:
> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
> >
> > "Velcroman" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've got XP
> >> installed
> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the Disk
> >> Management
> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you point out, the C
> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP installation
> >> doesn't
> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it entirely and make my
> >> Vista
> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally rename it C.
> >> How
> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I "repair startup"?
> >>
> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
> >>
> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'. The only way
> >> > to
> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to make that the
> >> > active
> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup' after making the
> >> > Vista
> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine. Some times it
> >> > has
> >> > to be run more than one time.
> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then delete the first
> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using a third party
> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
> >> >
> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on "C" in additon to
> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being unbootable -
> >> > > however
> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check the documentation
> >> > > on
> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
> >> > >
> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how can I get rid
> >> > >> of XP
> >> > >> on
> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
>
>

John Barnes

If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you delete it. Management
console has limited capabilities for partition management. You might
consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to do your cleanup.
If you think you will find it useful in the future it is reasonable,
otherwise you can just delete it.


"Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:194C9269-0E03-4D46-B9F8-1DCA52F8BEFE@microsoft.com...
> Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot successfully back
> into
> Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my nonfunctional XP
> installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are different,
> though:
> Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista partition as the
> Active
> one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a primary partition.
> And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again. I feel like
> I'm
> back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next? Should I try the
> whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few more
> times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put boot manager
>> on
>> your active partition. Some have had to run it several times, so run at
>> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the active
>> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
>>
>> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
>> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the Vista
>> > partition
>> > the
>> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an error
>> > message:
>> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
>> >
>> > "Velcroman" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've got XP
>> >> installed
>> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the Disk
>> >> Management
>> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you point out,
>> >> the C
>> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP installation
>> >> doesn't
>> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it entirely and make
>> >> my
>> >> Vista
>> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally rename it
>> >> C.
>> >> How
>> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I "repair
>> >> startup"?
>> >>
>> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'. The only
>> >> > way
>> >> > to
>> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to make that the
>> >> > active
>> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup' after making
>> >> > the
>> >> > Vista
>> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine. Some times
>> >> > it
>> >> > has
>> >> > to be run more than one time.
>> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then delete the
>> >> > first
>> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using a third
>> >> > party
>> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
>> >> >
>> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on "C" in additon
>> >> > > to
>> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being unbootable -
>> >> > > however
>> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check the
>> >> > > documentation
>> >> > > on
>> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
>> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
>> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how can I get
>> >> > >> rid
>> >> > >> of XP
>> >> > >> on
>> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>>
>>

Velcroman

Thanks for all of your help, John. I do appreciate it. One more question
before I hit the delete button. If I delete the C partition, my XP parition,
will my Vista partition suddenly decide that it's the C partition and not the
F partition--which I think it ought to be, but won't that mess up some apps
or something? Or will C just remain weirdly empty?

"John Barnes" wrote:

> If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you delete it. Management
> console has limited capabilities for partition management. You might
> consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to do your cleanup.
> If you think you will find it useful in the future it is reasonable,
> otherwise you can just delete it.
>
>
> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:194C9269-0E03-4D46-B9F8-1DCA52F8BEFE@microsoft.com...
> > Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot successfully back
> > into
> > Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my nonfunctional XP
> > installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are different,
> > though:
> > Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista partition as the
> > Active
> > one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a primary partition.
> > And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again. I feel like
> > I'm
> > back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next? Should I try the
> > whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few more
> > times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put boot manager
> >> on
> >> your active partition. Some have had to run it several times, so run at
> >> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the active
> >> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
> >>
> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
> >> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the Vista
> >> > partition
> >> > the
> >> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an error
> >> > message:
> >> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
> >> >
> >> > "Velcroman" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've got XP
> >> >> installed
> >> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the Disk
> >> >> Management
> >> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you point out,
> >> >> the C
> >> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP installation
> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it entirely and make
> >> >> my
> >> >> Vista
> >> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally rename it
> >> >> C.
> >> >> How
> >> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I "repair
> >> >> startup"?
> >> >>
> >> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'. The only
> >> >> > way
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to make that the
> >> >> > active
> >> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup' after making
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > Vista
> >> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine. Some times
> >> >> > it
> >> >> > has
> >> >> > to be run more than one time.
> >> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then delete the
> >> >> > first
> >> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using a third
> >> >> > party
> >> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on "C" in additon
> >> >> > > to
> >> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being unbootable -
> >> >> > > however
> >> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check the
> >> >> > > documentation
> >> >> > > on
> >> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
> >> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how can I get
> >> >> > >> rid
> >> >> > >> of XP
> >> >> > >> on
> >> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>

John Barnes

Windows sets the drive letter of each volume it sees in the registry on
first boot, (all drive letters assigned to volumes are assigned by the Mount
Manager (MountMgr) program. After a drive letter is assigned to a volume by
MountMgr, the drive letter is reserved for the volume in the MountMgr
database located in the system's registry.) so within Vista it will remain
the same letter it now shows up as. Your only problem would be if you had
pointed to any programs, files etc. on the XP drive and they are saved in
shortcuts or registry entries. For safety, you could search your Vista
registry using regedit for C:\ and C:/ to see if you have anything shared
with XP you didn't know about. Use the drive letter that XP shows up as in
Vista for the search. There is no way to know for sure what drive letters
will be assigned at sub-OS level so it is always safest to have slightly
different sized partitions and make sure they are distinctly labeled.

"Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:73A4F14E-C5B6-4A43-8A01-9532BBE98B0C@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for all of your help, John. I do appreciate it. One more question
> before I hit the delete button. If I delete the C partition, my XP
> parition,
> will my Vista partition suddenly decide that it's the C partition and not
> the
> F partition--which I think it ought to be, but won't that mess up some
> apps
> or something? Or will C just remain weirdly empty?
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you delete it.
>> Management
>> console has limited capabilities for partition management. You might
>> consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to do your cleanup.
>> If you think you will find it useful in the future it is reasonable,
>> otherwise you can just delete it.
>>
>>
>> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:194C9269-0E03-4D46-B9F8-1DCA52F8BEFE@microsoft.com...
>> > Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot successfully back
>> > into
>> > Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my nonfunctional
>> > XP
>> > installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are different,
>> > though:
>> > Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista partition as the
>> > Active
>> > one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a primary
>> > partition.
>> > And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again. I feel
>> > like
>> > I'm
>> > back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next? Should I try
>> > the
>> > whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few more
>> > times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put boot
>> >> manager
>> >> on
>> >> your active partition. Some have had to run it several times, so run
>> >> at
>> >> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the active
>> >> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
>> >>
>> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the Vista
>> >> > partition
>> >> > the
>> >> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an error
>> >> > message:
>> >> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
>> >> >
>> >> > "Velcroman" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've got XP
>> >> >> installed
>> >> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the Disk
>> >> >> Management
>> >> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you point out,
>> >> >> the C
>> >> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP installation
>> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it entirely and
>> >> >> make
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> Vista
>> >> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally rename
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> C.
>> >> >> How
>> >> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I "repair
>> >> >> startup"?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'. The
>> >> >> > only
>> >> >> > way
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to make that
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > active
>> >> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup' after
>> >> >> > making
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > Vista
>> >> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine. Some
>> >> >> > times
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > has
>> >> >> > to be run more than one time.
>> >> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then delete the
>> >> >> > first
>> >> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using a third
>> >> >> > party
>> >> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on "C" in
>> >> >> > > additon
>> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being
>> >> >> > > unbootable -
>> >> >> > > however
>> >> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check the
>> >> >> > > documentation
>> >> >> > > on
>> >> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
>> >> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how can I get
>> >> >> > >> rid
>> >> >> > >> of XP
>> >> >> > >> on
>> >> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

Velcroman

So I managed to delete the C partition ... it was easy enough. Vista didn't
move itself automatically, as you said it wouldn't. Vista doesn't let me
expand the F partition into the free space, however, which is kind of
irritating. I tried using both the management console and the Diskpart.exe
tool. I also tried with Paragon Partition Manager 8.5, which claims to be
able to do do it--the app rebooted my PC into a scary DOS app, which reported
some errors, threw it's hands up, and returned me to Vista safely. Any idea
how to expand my F partition across my full disk? Which is, FYI, a striped
RAID array, to add to the fun.

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Windows sets the drive letter of each volume it sees in the registry on
> first boot, (all drive letters assigned to volumes are assigned by the Mount
> Manager (MountMgr) program. After a drive letter is assigned to a volume by
> MountMgr, the drive letter is reserved for the volume in the MountMgr
> database located in the system's registry.) so within Vista it will remain
> the same letter it now shows up as. Your only problem would be if you had
> pointed to any programs, files etc. on the XP drive and they are saved in
> shortcuts or registry entries. For safety, you could search your Vista
> registry using regedit for C:\ and C:/ to see if you have anything shared
> with XP you didn't know about. Use the drive letter that XP shows up as in
> Vista for the search. There is no way to know for sure what drive letters
> will be assigned at sub-OS level so it is always safest to have slightly
> different sized partitions and make sure they are distinctly labeled.
>
> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:73A4F14E-C5B6-4A43-8A01-9532BBE98B0C@microsoft.com...
> > Thanks for all of your help, John. I do appreciate it. One more question
> > before I hit the delete button. If I delete the C partition, my XP
> > parition,
> > will my Vista partition suddenly decide that it's the C partition and not
> > the
> > F partition--which I think it ought to be, but won't that mess up some
> > apps
> > or something? Or will C just remain weirdly empty?
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >> If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you delete it.
> >> Management
> >> console has limited capabilities for partition management. You might
> >> consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to do your cleanup.
> >> If you think you will find it useful in the future it is reasonable,
> >> otherwise you can just delete it.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:194C9269-0E03-4D46-B9F8-1DCA52F8BEFE@microsoft.com...
> >> > Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot successfully back
> >> > into
> >> > Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my nonfunctional
> >> > XP
> >> > installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are different,
> >> > though:
> >> > Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista partition as the
> >> > Active
> >> > one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a primary
> >> > partition.
> >> > And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again. I feel
> >> > like
> >> > I'm
> >> > back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next? Should I try
> >> > the
> >> > whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few more
> >> > times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?
> >> >
> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put boot
> >> >> manager
> >> >> on
> >> >> your active partition. Some have had to run it several times, so run
> >> >> at
> >> >> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the active
> >> >> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the Vista
> >> >> > partition
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an error
> >> >> > message:
> >> >> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Velcroman" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've got XP
> >> >> >> installed
> >> >> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the Disk
> >> >> >> Management
> >> >> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you point out,
> >> >> >> the C
> >> >> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP installation
> >> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it entirely and
> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> Vista
> >> >> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally rename
> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> C.
> >> >> >> How
> >> >> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I "repair
> >> >> >> startup"?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'. The
> >> >> >> > only
> >> >> >> > way
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to make that
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > active
> >> >> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup' after
> >> >> >> > making
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > Vista
> >> >> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine. Some
> >> >> >> > times
> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> > has
> >> >> >> > to be run more than one time.
> >> >> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then delete the
> >> >> >> > first
> >> >> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using a third
> >> >> >> > party
> >> >> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on "C" in
> >> >> >> > > additon
> >> >> >> > > to
> >> >> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being
> >> >> >> > > unbootable -
> >> >> >> > > however
> >> >> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check the
> >> >> >> > > documentation
> >> >> >> > > on
> >> >> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
> >> >> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how can I get
> >> >> >> > >> rid
> >> >> >> > >> of XP
> >> >> >> > >> on
> >> >> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

John Barnes

BootItNG is my choice for partition management, but I am not sure if there
will be a problem because of RAID. Depending on your setup, you might have
to backup and restore the system after recreating your RAID. I think
BootItNG will do it though and you can download a trial so you don't have to
buy anything you don't want to. If it doesn't, before going thru the hassle
of recreating everything, I would make a new post in this group with RAID in
the topic and I am sure someone who regularly works with RAID arrays will be
able to give you more specific advice. Vista Disk Management really only
allows expansion into following freespace, which I take it you don't have.

"Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:62FBAB37-8735-404B-8C67-1BABC8FFC249@microsoft.com...
> So I managed to delete the C partition ... it was easy enough. Vista
> didn't
> move itself automatically, as you said it wouldn't. Vista doesn't let me
> expand the F partition into the free space, however, which is kind of
> irritating. I tried using both the management console and the Diskpart.exe
> tool. I also tried with Paragon Partition Manager 8.5, which claims to be
> able to do do it--the app rebooted my PC into a scary DOS app, which
> reported
> some errors, threw it's hands up, and returned me to Vista safely. Any
> idea
> how to expand my F partition across my full disk? Which is, FYI, a striped
> RAID array, to add to the fun.
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> Windows sets the drive letter of each volume it sees in the registry on
>> first boot, (all drive letters assigned to volumes are assigned by the
>> Mount
>> Manager (MountMgr) program. After a drive letter is assigned to a volume
>> by
>> MountMgr, the drive letter is reserved for the volume in the MountMgr
>> database located in the system's registry.) so within Vista it will
>> remain
>> the same letter it now shows up as. Your only problem would be if you
>> had
>> pointed to any programs, files etc. on the XP drive and they are saved in
>> shortcuts or registry entries. For safety, you could search your Vista
>> registry using regedit for C:\ and C:/ to see if you have anything
>> shared
>> with XP you didn't know about. Use the drive letter that XP shows up as
>> in
>> Vista for the search. There is no way to know for sure what drive
>> letters
>> will be assigned at sub-OS level so it is always safest to have slightly
>> different sized partitions and make sure they are distinctly labeled.
>>
>> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:73A4F14E-C5B6-4A43-8A01-9532BBE98B0C@microsoft.com...
>> > Thanks for all of your help, John. I do appreciate it. One more
>> > question
>> > before I hit the delete button. If I delete the C partition, my XP
>> > parition,
>> > will my Vista partition suddenly decide that it's the C partition and
>> > not
>> > the
>> > F partition--which I think it ought to be, but won't that mess up some
>> > apps
>> > or something? Or will C just remain weirdly empty?
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >
>> >> If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you delete it.
>> >> Management
>> >> console has limited capabilities for partition management. You might
>> >> consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to do your
>> >> cleanup.
>> >> If you think you will find it useful in the future it is reasonable,
>> >> otherwise you can just delete it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:194C9269-0E03-4D46-B9F8-1DCA52F8BEFE@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot successfully
>> >> > back
>> >> > into
>> >> > Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my
>> >> > nonfunctional
>> >> > XP
>> >> > installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are
>> >> > different,
>> >> > though:
>> >> > Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista partition as
>> >> > the
>> >> > Active
>> >> > one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a primary
>> >> > partition.
>> >> > And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again. I feel
>> >> > like
>> >> > I'm
>> >> > back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next? Should I
>> >> > try
>> >> > the
>> >> > whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few more
>> >> > times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?
>> >> >
>> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put boot
>> >> >> manager
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> your active partition. Some have had to run it several times, so
>> >> >> run
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the
>> >> >> active
>> >> >> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the Vista
>> >> >> > partition
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an error
>> >> >> > message:
>> >> >> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Velcroman" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've got
>> >> >> >> XP
>> >> >> >> installed
>> >> >> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the Disk
>> >> >> >> Management
>> >> >> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you point
>> >> >> >> out,
>> >> >> >> the C
>> >> >> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP
>> >> >> >> installation
>> >> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it entirely and
>> >> >> >> make
>> >> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> Vista
>> >> >> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally
>> >> >> >> rename
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> C.
>> >> >> >> How
>> >> >> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I "repair
>> >> >> >> startup"?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'. The
>> >> >> >> > only
>> >> >> >> > way
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to make
>> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > active
>> >> >> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup' after
>> >> >> >> > making
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > Vista
>> >> >> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine. Some
>> >> >> >> > times
>> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> > has
>> >> >> >> > to be run more than one time.
>> >> >> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then delete
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > first
>> >> >> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using a
>> >> >> >> > third
>> >> >> >> > party
>> >> >> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on "C" in
>> >> >> >> > > additon
>> >> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being
>> >> >> >> > > unbootable -
>> >> >> >> > > however
>> >> >> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check the
>> >> >> >> > > documentation
>> >> >> >> > > on
>> >> >> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
>> >> >> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how can I
>> >> >> >> > >> get
>> >> >> >> > >> rid
>> >> >> >> > >> of XP
>> >> >> >> > >> on
>> >> >> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

Velcroman

Well many thanks for all of your help. I think I'll install a new solo drive,
which should just become the C drive, and clone the partition over to it.
RAID isn't really reliable enough anyway, at least not in my experience.

"John Barnes" wrote:

> BootItNG is my choice for partition management, but I am not sure if there
> will be a problem because of RAID. Depending on your setup, you might have
> to backup and restore the system after recreating your RAID. I think
> BootItNG will do it though and you can download a trial so you don't have to
> buy anything you don't want to. If it doesn't, before going thru the hassle
> of recreating everything, I would make a new post in this group with RAID in
> the topic and I am sure someone who regularly works with RAID arrays will be
> able to give you more specific advice. Vista Disk Management really only
> allows expansion into following freespace, which I take it you don't have.
>
> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:62FBAB37-8735-404B-8C67-1BABC8FFC249@microsoft.com...
> > So I managed to delete the C partition ... it was easy enough. Vista
> > didn't
> > move itself automatically, as you said it wouldn't. Vista doesn't let me
> > expand the F partition into the free space, however, which is kind of
> > irritating. I tried using both the management console and the Diskpart.exe
> > tool. I also tried with Paragon Partition Manager 8.5, which claims to be
> > able to do do it--the app rebooted my PC into a scary DOS app, which
> > reported
> > some errors, threw it's hands up, and returned me to Vista safely. Any
> > idea
> > how to expand my F partition across my full disk? Which is, FYI, a striped
> > RAID array, to add to the fun.
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >> Windows sets the drive letter of each volume it sees in the registry on
> >> first boot, (all drive letters assigned to volumes are assigned by the
> >> Mount
> >> Manager (MountMgr) program. After a drive letter is assigned to a volume
> >> by
> >> MountMgr, the drive letter is reserved for the volume in the MountMgr
> >> database located in the system's registry.) so within Vista it will
> >> remain
> >> the same letter it now shows up as. Your only problem would be if you
> >> had
> >> pointed to any programs, files etc. on the XP drive and they are saved in
> >> shortcuts or registry entries. For safety, you could search your Vista
> >> registry using regedit for C:\ and C:/ to see if you have anything
> >> shared
> >> with XP you didn't know about. Use the drive letter that XP shows up as
> >> in
> >> Vista for the search. There is no way to know for sure what drive
> >> letters
> >> will be assigned at sub-OS level so it is always safest to have slightly
> >> different sized partitions and make sure they are distinctly labeled.
> >>
> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:73A4F14E-C5B6-4A43-8A01-9532BBE98B0C@microsoft.com...
> >> > Thanks for all of your help, John. I do appreciate it. One more
> >> > question
> >> > before I hit the delete button. If I delete the C partition, my XP
> >> > parition,
> >> > will my Vista partition suddenly decide that it's the C partition and
> >> > not
> >> > the
> >> > F partition--which I think it ought to be, but won't that mess up some
> >> > apps
> >> > or something? Or will C just remain weirdly empty?
> >> >
> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you delete it.
> >> >> Management
> >> >> console has limited capabilities for partition management. You might
> >> >> consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to do your
> >> >> cleanup.
> >> >> If you think you will find it useful in the future it is reasonable,
> >> >> otherwise you can just delete it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:194C9269-0E03-4D46-B9F8-1DCA52F8BEFE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot successfully
> >> >> > back
> >> >> > into
> >> >> > Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my
> >> >> > nonfunctional
> >> >> > XP
> >> >> > installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are
> >> >> > different,
> >> >> > though:
> >> >> > Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista partition as
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > Active
> >> >> > one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a primary
> >> >> > partition.
> >> >> > And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again. I feel
> >> >> > like
> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> > back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next? Should I
> >> >> > try
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few more
> >> >> > times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put boot
> >> >> >> manager
> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> your active partition. Some have had to run it several times, so
> >> >> >> run
> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the
> >> >> >> active
> >> >> >> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the Vista
> >> >> >> > partition
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an error
> >> >> >> > message:
> >> >> >> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Velcroman" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've got
> >> >> >> >> XP
> >> >> >> >> installed
> >> >> >> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the Disk
> >> >> >> >> Management
> >> >> >> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you point
> >> >> >> >> out,
> >> >> >> >> the C
> >> >> >> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP
> >> >> >> >> installation
> >> >> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> >> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it entirely and
> >> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> Vista
> >> >> >> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally
> >> >> >> >> rename
> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> C.
> >> >> >> >> How
> >> >> >> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I "repair
> >> >> >> >> startup"?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'. The
> >> >> >> >> > only
> >> >> >> >> > way
> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to make
> >> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > active
> >> >> >> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup' after
> >> >> >> >> > making
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > Vista
> >> >> >> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine. Some
> >> >> >> >> > times
> >> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> > has
> >> >> >> >> > to be run more than one time.
> >> >> >> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then delete
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > first
> >> >> >> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using a
> >> >> >> >> > third
> >> >> >> >> > party
> >> >> >> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on "C" in
> >> >> >> >> > > additon
> >> >> >> >> > > to
> >> >> >> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being
> >> >> >> >> > > unbootable -
> >> >> >> >> > > however
> >> >> >> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check the
> >> >> >> >> > > documentation
> >> >> >> >> > > on
> >> >> >> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
> >> >> >> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how can I
> >> >> >> >> > >> get
> >> >> >> >> > >> rid
> >> >> >> >> > >> of XP
> >> >> >> >> > >> on
> >> >> >> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

John Barnes

Good luck, but since you installed Vista to another drive letter, the
entries in the registry are all pointing to an F partition. That is why I
believe that Vista was changed to always install itself as C when installed
from the DVD, but when installed from another system it uses the same
process as the pre-Vista Windows systems did, the next availavable drive
letter. There used to be a program packaged with Partition Magic that would
go thru the registry and make the changes, but if you run into problems,
make sure the partition you clone to also will enumerate itself as F.

"Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3DF07A03-7D30-400E-884B-7BAFEA113DB1@microsoft.com...
> Well many thanks for all of your help. I think I'll install a new solo
> drive,
> which should just become the C drive, and clone the partition over to it.
> RAID isn't really reliable enough anyway, at least not in my experience.
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> BootItNG is my choice for partition management, but I am not sure if
>> there
>> will be a problem because of RAID. Depending on your setup, you might
>> have
>> to backup and restore the system after recreating your RAID. I think
>> BootItNG will do it though and you can download a trial so you don't have
>> to
>> buy anything you don't want to. If it doesn't, before going thru the
>> hassle
>> of recreating everything, I would make a new post in this group with RAID
>> in
>> the topic and I am sure someone who regularly works with RAID arrays will
>> be
>> able to give you more specific advice. Vista Disk Management really only
>> allows expansion into following freespace, which I take it you don't
>> have.
>>
>> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:62FBAB37-8735-404B-8C67-1BABC8FFC249@microsoft.com...
>> > So I managed to delete the C partition ... it was easy enough. Vista
>> > didn't
>> > move itself automatically, as you said it wouldn't. Vista doesn't let
>> > me
>> > expand the F partition into the free space, however, which is kind of
>> > irritating. I tried using both the management console and the
>> > Diskpart.exe
>> > tool. I also tried with Paragon Partition Manager 8.5, which claims to
>> > be
>> > able to do do it--the app rebooted my PC into a scary DOS app, which
>> > reported
>> > some errors, threw it's hands up, and returned me to Vista safely. Any
>> > idea
>> > how to expand my F partition across my full disk? Which is, FYI, a
>> > striped
>> > RAID array, to add to the fun.
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Windows sets the drive letter of each volume it sees in the registry
>> >> on
>> >> first boot, (all drive letters assigned to volumes are assigned by the
>> >> Mount
>> >> Manager (MountMgr) program. After a drive letter is assigned to a
>> >> volume
>> >> by
>> >> MountMgr, the drive letter is reserved for the volume in the MountMgr
>> >> database located in the system's registry.) so within Vista it will
>> >> remain
>> >> the same letter it now shows up as. Your only problem would be if you
>> >> had
>> >> pointed to any programs, files etc. on the XP drive and they are saved
>> >> in
>> >> shortcuts or registry entries. For safety, you could search your
>> >> Vista
>> >> registry using regedit for C:\ and C:/ to see if you have anything
>> >> shared
>> >> with XP you didn't know about. Use the drive letter that XP shows up
>> >> as
>> >> in
>> >> Vista for the search. There is no way to know for sure what drive
>> >> letters
>> >> will be assigned at sub-OS level so it is always safest to have
>> >> slightly
>> >> different sized partitions and make sure they are distinctly labeled.
>> >>
>> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:73A4F14E-C5B6-4A43-8A01-9532BBE98B0C@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Thanks for all of your help, John. I do appreciate it. One more
>> >> > question
>> >> > before I hit the delete button. If I delete the C partition, my XP
>> >> > parition,
>> >> > will my Vista partition suddenly decide that it's the C partition
>> >> > and
>> >> > not
>> >> > the
>> >> > F partition--which I think it ought to be, but won't that mess up
>> >> > some
>> >> > apps
>> >> > or something? Or will C just remain weirdly empty?
>> >> >
>> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you delete it.
>> >> >> Management
>> >> >> console has limited capabilities for partition management. You
>> >> >> might
>> >> >> consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to do your
>> >> >> cleanup.
>> >> >> If you think you will find it useful in the future it is
>> >> >> reasonable,
>> >> >> otherwise you can just delete it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:194C9269-0E03-4D46-B9F8-1DCA52F8BEFE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot
>> >> >> > successfully
>> >> >> > back
>> >> >> > into
>> >> >> > Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my
>> >> >> > nonfunctional
>> >> >> > XP
>> >> >> > installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are
>> >> >> > different,
>> >> >> > though:
>> >> >> > Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista partition
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > Active
>> >> >> > one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a primary
>> >> >> > partition.
>> >> >> > And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again. I
>> >> >> > feel
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > I'm
>> >> >> > back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next? Should
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > try
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few
>> >> >> > more
>> >> >> > times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put boot
>> >> >> >> manager
>> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> your active partition. Some have had to run it several times,
>> >> >> >> so
>> >> >> >> run
>> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the
>> >> >> >> active
>> >> >> >> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the Vista
>> >> >> >> > partition
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an
>> >> >> >> > error
>> >> >> >> > message:
>> >> >> >> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Velcroman" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've
>> >> >> >> >> got
>> >> >> >> >> XP
>> >> >> >> >> installed
>> >> >> >> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the
>> >> >> >> >> Disk
>> >> >> >> >> Management
>> >> >> >> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you
>> >> >> >> >> point
>> >> >> >> >> out,
>> >> >> >> >> the C
>> >> >> >> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP
>> >> >> >> >> installation
>> >> >> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> >> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it entirely
>> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> make
>> >> >> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> >> Vista
>> >> >> >> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally
>> >> >> >> >> rename
>> >> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> >> C.
>> >> >> >> >> How
>> >> >> >> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I
>> >> >> >> >> "repair
>> >> >> >> >> startup"?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'.
>> >> >> >> >> > The
>> >> >> >> >> > only
>> >> >> >> >> > way
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to make
>> >> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > active
>> >> >> >> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup' after
>> >> >> >> >> > making
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > Vista
>> >> >> >> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine.
>> >> >> >> >> > Some
>> >> >> >> >> > times
>> >> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> >> > has
>> >> >> >> >> > to be run more than one time.
>> >> >> >> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then delete
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > first
>> >> >> >> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using a
>> >> >> >> >> > third
>> >> >> >> >> > party
>> >> >> >> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on "C"
>> >> >> >> >> > > in
>> >> >> >> >> > > additon
>> >> >> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> >> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being
>> >> >> >> >> > > unbootable -
>> >> >> >> >> > > however
>> >> >> >> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check the
>> >> >> >> >> > > documentation
>> >> >> >> >> > > on
>> >> >> >> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> > > message
>> >> >> >> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
>> >> >> >> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how can
>> >> >> >> >> > >> I
>> >> >> >> >> > >> get
>> >> >> >> >> > >> rid
>> >> >> >> >> > >> of XP
>> >> >> >> >> > >> on
>> >> >> >> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

Mac (Croatia)

I will "open" this topis once again to ask somebody here is it possible to
"move" or copy boot loader which is now on E partition to partition C which
is empty after I have deleted XP and there is still Boot Manager from
previous XP installation on C . I still can not believe that such solution
is not possible (but my profession is medical so excuse me for disbelief....)
.. This is important because some programs during instalations goes "by
default" on partition C and You can not use them from Vista on E.

BCDedit :
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
default {current}
displayorder {current}
timeout 5

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=E:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium
osdevice partition=E:
systemroot \Windows

Mac


>"John Barnes" wrote:

> Good luck, but since you installed Vista to another drive letter, the
> entries in the registry are all pointing to an F partition. That is why I
> believe that Vista was changed to always install itself as C when installed
> from the DVD, but when installed from another system it uses the same
> process as the pre-Vista Windows systems did, the next availavable drive
> letter. There used to be a program packaged with Partition Magic that would
> go thru the registry and make the changes, but if you run into problems,
> make sure the partition you clone to also will enumerate itself as F.
>
> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3DF07A03-7D30-400E-884B-7BAFEA113DB1@microsoft.com...
> > Well many thanks for all of your help. I think I'll install a new solo
> > drive,
> > which should just become the C drive, and clone the partition over to it.
> > RAID isn't really reliable enough anyway, at least not in my experience.
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >> BootItNG is my choice for partition management, but I am not sure if
> >> there
> >> will be a problem because of RAID. Depending on your setup, you might
> >> have
> >> to backup and restore the system after recreating your RAID. I think
> >> BootItNG will do it though and you can download a trial so you don't have
> >> to
> >> buy anything you don't want to. If it doesn't, before going thru the
> >> hassle
> >> of recreating everything, I would make a new post in this group with RAID
> >> in
> >> the topic and I am sure someone who regularly works with RAID arrays will
> >> be
> >> able to give you more specific advice. Vista Disk Management really only
> >> allows expansion into following freespace, which I take it you don't
> >> have.
> >>
> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:62FBAB37-8735-404B-8C67-1BABC8FFC249@microsoft.com...
> >> > So I managed to delete the C partition ... it was easy enough. Vista
> >> > didn't
> >> > move itself automatically, as you said it wouldn't. Vista doesn't let
> >> > me
> >> > expand the F partition into the free space, however, which is kind of
> >> > irritating. I tried using both the management console and the
> >> > Diskpart.exe
> >> > tool. I also tried with Paragon Partition Manager 8.5, which claims to
> >> > be
> >> > able to do do it--the app rebooted my PC into a scary DOS app, which
> >> > reported
> >> > some errors, threw it's hands up, and returned me to Vista safely. Any
> >> > idea
> >> > how to expand my F partition across my full disk? Which is, FYI, a
> >> > striped
> >> > RAID array, to add to the fun.
> >> >
> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Windows sets the drive letter of each volume it sees in the registry
> >> >> on
> >> >> first boot, (all drive letters assigned to volumes are assigned by the
> >> >> Mount
> >> >> Manager (MountMgr) program. After a drive letter is assigned to a
> >> >> volume
> >> >> by
> >> >> MountMgr, the drive letter is reserved for the volume in the MountMgr
> >> >> database located in the system's registry.) so within Vista it will
> >> >> remain
> >> >> the same letter it now shows up as. Your only problem would be if you
> >> >> had
> >> >> pointed to any programs, files etc. on the XP drive and they are saved
> >> >> in
> >> >> shortcuts or registry entries. For safety, you could search your
> >> >> Vista
> >> >> registry using regedit for C:\ and C:/ to see if you have anything
> >> >> shared
> >> >> with XP you didn't know about. Use the drive letter that XP shows up
> >> >> as
> >> >> in
> >> >> Vista for the search. There is no way to know for sure what drive
> >> >> letters
> >> >> will be assigned at sub-OS level so it is always safest to have
> >> >> slightly
> >> >> different sized partitions and make sure they are distinctly labeled.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:73A4F14E-C5B6-4A43-8A01-9532BBE98B0C@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Thanks for all of your help, John. I do appreciate it. One more
> >> >> > question
> >> >> > before I hit the delete button. If I delete the C partition, my XP
> >> >> > parition,
> >> >> > will my Vista partition suddenly decide that it's the C partition
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > not
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > F partition--which I think it ought to be, but won't that mess up
> >> >> > some
> >> >> > apps
> >> >> > or something? Or will C just remain weirdly empty?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you delete it.
> >> >> >> Management
> >> >> >> console has limited capabilities for partition management. You
> >> >> >> might
> >> >> >> consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to do your
> >> >> >> cleanup.
> >> >> >> If you think you will find it useful in the future it is
> >> >> >> reasonable,
> >> >> >> otherwise you can just delete it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:194C9269-0E03-4D46-B9F8-1DCA52F8BEFE@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot
> >> >> >> > successfully
> >> >> >> > back
> >> >> >> > into
> >> >> >> > Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my
> >> >> >> > nonfunctional
> >> >> >> > XP
> >> >> >> > installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are
> >> >> >> > different,
> >> >> >> > though:
> >> >> >> > Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista partition
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > Active
> >> >> >> > one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a primary
> >> >> >> > partition.
> >> >> >> > And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again. I
> >> >> >> > feel
> >> >> >> > like
> >> >> >> > I'm
> >> >> >> > back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next? Should
> >> >> >> > I
> >> >> >> > try
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few
> >> >> >> > more
> >> >> >> > times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put boot
> >> >> >> >> manager
> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> >> your active partition. Some have had to run it several times,
> >> >> >> >> so
> >> >> >> >> run
> >> >> >> >> at
> >> >> >> >> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the
> >> >> >> >> active
> >> >> >> >> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the Vista
> >> >> >> >> > partition
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an
> >> >> >> >> > error
> >> >> >> >> > message:
> >> >> >> >> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "Velcroman" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've
> >> >> >> >> >> got
> >> >> >> >> >> XP
> >> >> >> >> >> installed
> >> >> >> >> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the
> >> >> >> >> >> Disk
> >> >> >> >> >> Management
> >> >> >> >> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you
> >> >> >> >> >> point
> >> >> >> >> >> out,
> >> >> >> >> >> the C
> >> >> >> >> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP
> >> >> >> >> >> installation
> >> >> >> >> >> doesn't
> >> >> >> >> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it entirely
> >> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> >> make
> >> >> >> >> >> my
> >> >> >> >> >> Vista
> >> >> >> >> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally
> >> >> >> >> >> rename
> >> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> >> C.
> >> >> >> >> >> How
> >> >> >> >> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I
> >> >> >> >> >> "repair
> >> >> >> >> >> startup"?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'.
> >> >> >> >> >> > The
> >> >> >> >> >> > only
> >> >> >> >> >> > way
> >> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to make
> >> >> >> >> >> > that
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > active
> >> >> >> >> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup' after
> >> >> >> >> >> > making
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > Vista
> >> >> >> >> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine.
> >> >> >> >> >> > Some
> >> >> >> >> >> > times
> >> >> >> >> >> > it
> >> >> >> >> >> > has
> >> >> >> >> >> > to be run more than one time.
> >> >> >> >> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then delete
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > first
> >> >> >> >> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using a
> >> >> >> >> >> > third
> >> >> >> >> >> > party
> >> >> >> >> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on "C"
> >> >> >> >> >> > > in
> >> >> >> >> >> > > additon
> >> >> >> >> >> > > to
> >> >> >> >> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being
> >> >> >> >> >> > > unbootable -
> >> >> >> >> >> > > however
> >> >> >> >> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check the
> >> >> >> >> >> > > documentation
> >> >> >> >> >> > > on
> >> >> >> >> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> > > message
> >> >> >> >> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how can
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> I
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> get
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> rid
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> of XP
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> on
> >> >> >> >> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>

Stephen Petrowski

go to the disk manager and change the drive letters in vista then format the
empty drive simple as that
"Mac (Croatia)" <MacCroatia@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:41071FB2-7F60-421B-BD39-5E1D6BBC0B70@microsoft.com...
>I will "open" this topis once again to ask somebody here is it possible to
> "move" or copy boot loader which is now on E partition to partition C
> which
> is empty after I have deleted XP and there is still Boot Manager from
> previous XP installation on C . I still can not believe that such
> solution
> is not possible (but my profession is medical so excuse me for
> disbelief....)
> . This is important because some programs during instalations goes "by
> default" on partition C and You can not use them from Vista on E.
>
> BCDedit :
> Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
> Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
>
> Windows Boot Manager
> --------------------
> identifier {bootmgr}
> device partition=C:
> default {current}
> displayorder {current}
> timeout 5
>
> Windows Boot Loader
> -------------------
> identifier {current}
> device partition=E:
> path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
> description Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium
> osdevice partition=E:
> systemroot \Windows
>
> Mac
>
>
>>"John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> Good luck, but since you installed Vista to another drive letter, the
>> entries in the registry are all pointing to an F partition. That is why
>> I
>> believe that Vista was changed to always install itself as C when
>> installed
>> from the DVD, but when installed from another system it uses the same
>> process as the pre-Vista Windows systems did, the next availavable drive
>> letter. There used to be a program packaged with Partition Magic that
>> would
>> go thru the registry and make the changes, but if you run into problems,
>> make sure the partition you clone to also will enumerate itself as F.
>>
>> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:3DF07A03-7D30-400E-884B-7BAFEA113DB1@microsoft.com...
>> > Well many thanks for all of your help. I think I'll install a new solo
>> > drive,
>> > which should just become the C drive, and clone the partition over to
>> > it.
>> > RAID isn't really reliable enough anyway, at least not in my
>> > experience.
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >
>> >> BootItNG is my choice for partition management, but I am not sure if
>> >> there
>> >> will be a problem because of RAID. Depending on your setup, you might
>> >> have
>> >> to backup and restore the system after recreating your RAID. I think
>> >> BootItNG will do it though and you can download a trial so you don't
>> >> have
>> >> to
>> >> buy anything you don't want to. If it doesn't, before going thru the
>> >> hassle
>> >> of recreating everything, I would make a new post in this group with
>> >> RAID
>> >> in
>> >> the topic and I am sure someone who regularly works with RAID arrays
>> >> will
>> >> be
>> >> able to give you more specific advice. Vista Disk Management really
>> >> only
>> >> allows expansion into following freespace, which I take it you don't
>> >> have.
>> >>
>> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:62FBAB37-8735-404B-8C67-1BABC8FFC249@microsoft.com...
>> >> > So I managed to delete the C partition ... it was easy enough. Vista
>> >> > didn't
>> >> > move itself automatically, as you said it wouldn't. Vista doesn't
>> >> > let
>> >> > me
>> >> > expand the F partition into the free space, however, which is kind
>> >> > of
>> >> > irritating. I tried using both the management console and the
>> >> > Diskpart.exe
>> >> > tool. I also tried with Paragon Partition Manager 8.5, which claims
>> >> > to
>> >> > be
>> >> > able to do do it--the app rebooted my PC into a scary DOS app, which
>> >> > reported
>> >> > some errors, threw it's hands up, and returned me to Vista safely.
>> >> > Any
>> >> > idea
>> >> > how to expand my F partition across my full disk? Which is, FYI, a
>> >> > striped
>> >> > RAID array, to add to the fun.
>> >> >
>> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Windows sets the drive letter of each volume it sees in the
>> >> >> registry
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> first boot, (all drive letters assigned to volumes are assigned by
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Mount
>> >> >> Manager (MountMgr) program. After a drive letter is assigned to a
>> >> >> volume
>> >> >> by
>> >> >> MountMgr, the drive letter is reserved for the volume in the
>> >> >> MountMgr
>> >> >> database located in the system's registry.) so within Vista it
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> remain
>> >> >> the same letter it now shows up as. Your only problem would be if
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> had
>> >> >> pointed to any programs, files etc. on the XP drive and they are
>> >> >> saved
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> shortcuts or registry entries. For safety, you could search your
>> >> >> Vista
>> >> >> registry using regedit for C:\ and C:/ to see if you have
>> >> >> anything
>> >> >> shared
>> >> >> with XP you didn't know about. Use the drive letter that XP shows
>> >> >> up
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> Vista for the search. There is no way to know for sure what drive
>> >> >> letters
>> >> >> will be assigned at sub-OS level so it is always safest to have
>> >> >> slightly
>> >> >> different sized partitions and make sure they are distinctly
>> >> >> labeled.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:73A4F14E-C5B6-4A43-8A01-9532BBE98B0C@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > Thanks for all of your help, John. I do appreciate it. One more
>> >> >> > question
>> >> >> > before I hit the delete button. If I delete the C partition, my
>> >> >> > XP
>> >> >> > parition,
>> >> >> > will my Vista partition suddenly decide that it's the C partition
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > the
>> >> >> > F partition--which I think it ought to be, but won't that mess up
>> >> >> > some
>> >> >> > apps
>> >> >> > or something? Or will C just remain weirdly empty?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> If you are not using the XP partition, why don't you delete it.
>> >> >> >> Management
>> >> >> >> console has limited capabilities for partition management. You
>> >> >> >> might
>> >> >> >> consider downloading a trial of BootItNG and using it to do your
>> >> >> >> cleanup.
>> >> >> >> If you think you will find it useful in the future it is
>> >> >> >> reasonable,
>> >> >> >> otherwise you can just delete it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> news:194C9269-0E03-4D46-B9F8-1DCA52F8BEFE@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> > Ran it a few times and eventually I got my PC to boot
>> >> >> >> > successfully
>> >> >> >> > back
>> >> >> >> > into
>> >> >> >> > Vista. However, it's still listed as the F drive, with my
>> >> >> >> > nonfunctional
>> >> >> >> > XP
>> >> >> >> > installation sitting pretty in the C slot. Some things are
>> >> >> >> > different,
>> >> >> >> > though:
>> >> >> >> > Microsoft Management Console now recognizes the Vista
>> >> >> >> > partition
>> >> >> >> > as
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > Active
>> >> >> >> > one, and as pretty much everything else. XP is merely a
>> >> >> >> > primary
>> >> >> >> > partition.
>> >> >> >> > And I'd turned off the dual-boot feature; it's back on again.
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > feel
>> >> >> >> > like
>> >> >> >> > I'm
>> >> >> >> > back in the same boat I was in before, though. What next?
>> >> >> >> > Should
>> >> >> >> > I
>> >> >> >> > try
>> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> > whole thing again? Ore rerun the start-up repair feature a few
>> >> >> >> > more
>> >> >> >> > times--will that switch Vista over to be the C drive?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Run the Vista DVD and run start-up repair. That should put
>> >> >> >> >> boot
>> >> >> >> >> manager
>> >> >> >> >> on
>> >> >> >> >> your active partition. Some have had to run it several
>> >> >> >> >> times,
>> >> >> >> >> so
>> >> >> >> >> run
>> >> >> >> >> at
>> >> >> >> >> least 4 times before posting back. You can always change the
>> >> >> >> >> active
>> >> >> >> >> partition back if it doesn't work for you.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> "Velcroman" <Velcroman@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> message
>> >> >> >> >> news:0673D8BE-59EA-4A38-AD0B-87762050D46B@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >> > Okay, using the Microsoft Management console, I made the
>> >> >> >> >> > Vista
>> >> >> >> >> > partition
>> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> > active partition. Then I rebooted, or tried to: I get an
>> >> >> >> >> > error
>> >> >> >> >> > message:
>> >> >> >> >> > BOOTMGR is missing. How do i fix / "repair startup"
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > "Velcroman" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> I'm in much the same boot boat--does that make sense? I've
>> >> >> >> >> >> got
>> >> >> >> >> >> XP
>> >> >> >> >> >> installed
>> >> >> >> >> >> on the C partition (the system partition, according to the
>> >> >> >> >> >> Disk
>> >> >> >> >> >> Management
>> >> >> >> >> >> app) and Vista installed on a later, F partition. As you
>> >> >> >> >> >> point
>> >> >> >> >> >> out,
>> >> >> >> >> >> the C
>> >> >> >> >> >> partition is the "active" partition--even though my XP
>> >> >> >> >> >> installation
>> >> >> >> >> >> doesn't
>> >> >> >> >> >> even really work anymore. I just want to delete it
>> >> >> >> >> >> entirely
>> >> >> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> >> >> make
>> >> >> >> >> >> my
>> >> >> >> >> >> Vista
>> >> >> >> >> >> disk (the F parition) into the only partition--and ideally
>> >> >> >> >> >> rename
>> >> >> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> >> >> C.
>> >> >> >> >> >> How
>> >> >> >> >> >> do I make the Vista parition active? and then how do I
>> >> >> >> >> >> "repair
>> >> >> >> >> >> startup"?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Vista installs the boot files on the 'system partition'.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > The
>> >> >> >> >> >> > only
>> >> >> >> >> >> > way
>> >> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> > get the boot files on the Vista partition would be to
>> >> >> >> >> >> > make
>> >> >> >> >> >> > that
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > active
>> >> >> >> >> >> > partition before doing anything. A 'repair startup'
>> >> >> >> >> >> > after
>> >> >> >> >> >> > making
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Vista
>> >> >> >> >> >> > partition active using the install DVD should work fine.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Some
>> >> >> >> >> >> > times
>> >> >> >> >> >> > it
>> >> >> >> >> >> > has
>> >> >> >> >> >> > to be run more than one time.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > If Vista sees itself as C when running, you can then
>> >> >> >> >> >> > delete
>> >> >> >> >> >> > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > first
>> >> >> >> >> >> > partition and add the space to the Vista partition using
>> >> >> >> >> >> > a
>> >> >> >> >> >> > third
>> >> >> >> >> >> > party
>> >> >> >> >> >> > partition managing product such as BootItNG or Acronis.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > "AJR" <ajrjdr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >> > news:%234k6n1yHIHA.5276@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > Vista, in a dual boot setup, installs boot files on
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > "C"
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > in
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > additon
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > to
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > files on "D". Removing XP will result in Vista being
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > unbootable -
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > however
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > all may not be lost - download VistaBootPro - check
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > the
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > documentation
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > on
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > making the Vista partition bootable.
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > "Marko" <Marko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > message
>> >> >> >> >> >> > > news:E9310DCB-FC7D-46D7-B800-F5B71D2F7F36@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> Single HDD with two partitions:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> With XP installed on drive C:\ and Vista on D:\, how
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> can
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> I
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> get
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> rid
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> of XP
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> on
>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> C and change the Vista partion from D to C?
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