dzomlija

Oxford;511569 Wrote:
> 3 New Great Ads from Apple which are sure to put a smile on both Windows
> and Mac user's faces since they are SO TRUE.
>
> What a HOOT! Way to Go Apple!
>
> You'll be seeing them all over TV in the coming weeks...
>
> 1) Podium
> 2) BoxerBoxer
> 3) PR LadyPR Lady
>
> 'Apple - Get a Mac - Watch The TV Ads'
> (http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/)
>
> Enjoy!
>
> -

Really cool.

I'm amazed that advertising laws in the USA allow this sort of thing.
If a company here in South Africa where to do something similar, they'd
get slammed with a lawsuit so quickly it wouldn't even be funny how
quickly the Chamber Of Commerce will shut them down.

TBH, we have little choice but to use Microsoft and PC products here in
South Africa. Apple MAC is just too damned expensive here to even
consider. And that's assuming we are even lucky enough to find a
supplier!

Gotta love those ads of Mac vs. PC though. Good laugh!


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Mayor of R'lyeh

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:35:11 -0700, Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>"Tim Murray" <no-spam@thankyou.com> stated in post
>zEa_i.4066$II4.2745@bignews3.bellsouth.net on 11/12/07 10:31 PM:
>
>> On Nov 12, 2007, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>> No thanks. I don't watch commercials.
>>>
>>> I watch very little TV. When I do, I switch channels when commercials
>>> come on. Most people do.
>>>
>>
>> Actually they don't. Google the string "most people watch commercials"
>>
>Companies spend a lot of money on commercials... because the work.

Something there's actually zero evidence for.

Snit

"Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> stated in post
jffij3pohvjkua91djbkvnlvpe6lcu6p6m@4ax.com on 11/12/07 11:02 PM:

> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:35:11 -0700, Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Tim Murray" <no-spam@thankyou.com> stated in post
>> zEa_i.4066$II4.2745@bignews3.bellsouth.net on 11/12/07 10:31 PM:
>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2007, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>> No thanks. I don't watch commercials.
>>>>
>>>> I watch very little TV. When I do, I switch channels when commercials
>>>> come on. Most people do.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Actually they don't. Google the string "most people watch commercials"
>>>
>> Companies spend a lot of money on commercials... because the work.
>
> Something there's actually zero evidence for.

So you think companies spend... what... millions or maybe billions of
dollars a year on commercials even though they have no reasonable
expectation that they work. Seems... well... unlikely.


--
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.
--Albert Einstein

Charlie Tame

Snit wrote:
> "Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> stated in post
> jffij3pohvjkua91djbkvnlvpe6lcu6p6m@4ax.com on 11/12/07 11:02 PM:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:35:11 -0700, Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Tim Murray" <no-spam@thankyou.com> stated in post
>>> zEa_i.4066$II4.2745@bignews3.bellsouth.net on 11/12/07 10:31 PM:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 2007, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>>> No thanks. I don't watch commercials.
>>>>>
>>>>> I watch very little TV. When I do, I switch channels when commercials
>>>>> come on. Most people do.
>>>>>
>>>> Actually they don't. Google the string "most people watch commercials"
>>>>
>>> Companies spend a lot of money on commercials... because the work.
>> Something there's actually zero evidence for.
>
> So you think companies spend... what... millions or maybe billions of
> dollars a year on commercials even though they have no reasonable
> expectation that they work. Seems... well... unlikely.
>
>


I dunno, corporate stupidity often seems to be lie ordinary stupidity
but more successful

caver1

Snit wrote:
> "Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> stated in post
> jffij3pohvjkua91djbkvnlvpe6lcu6p6m@4ax.com on 11/12/07 11:02 PM:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:35:11 -0700, Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Tim Murray" <no-spam@thankyou.com> stated in post
>>> zEa_i.4066$II4.2745@bignews3.bellsouth.net on 11/12/07 10:31 PM:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 2007, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>>> No thanks. I don't watch commercials.
>>>>>
>>>>> I watch very little TV. When I do, I switch channels when commercials
>>>>> come on. Most people do.
>>>>>
>>>> Actually they don't. Google the string "most people watch commercials"
>>>>
>>> Companies spend a lot of money on commercials... because the work.
>> Something there's actually zero evidence for.
>
> So you think companies spend... what... millions or maybe billions of
> dollars a year on commercials even though they have no reasonable
> expectation that they work. Seems... well... unlikely.
>
>


I remember serveral years ago when AnheuserBusch
had to slow down because the union stuck. They cut
way back on their advertising. Their sales fell.
When the strike was over they resumed their
advertising and stated that they figured that it
would take three months for the ads to get their
sales back up. Who wudda thunk that Bud needed
advertising.
caver1

Charlie Tame

dzomlija wrote:
> Oxford;511569 Wrote:
>> 3 New Great Ads from Apple which are sure to put a smile on both Windows
>> and Mac user's faces since they are SO TRUE.
>>
>> What a HOOT! Way to Go Apple!
>>
>> You'll be seeing them all over TV in the coming weeks...
>>
>> 1) Podium
>> 2) BoxerBoxer
>> 3) PR LadyPR Lady
>>
>> 'Apple - Get a Mac - Watch The TV Ads'
>> (http://www.apple.com/getamac/ads/)
>>
>> Enjoy!
>>
>> -
>
> Really cool.
>
> I'm amazed that advertising laws in the USA allow this sort of thing.
> If a company here in South Africa where to do something similar, they'd
> get slammed with a lawsuit so quickly it wouldn't even be funny how
> quickly the Chamber Of Commerce will shut them down.
>
> TBH, we have little choice but to use Microsoft and PC products here in
> South Africa. Apple MAC is just too damned expensive here to even
> consider. And that's assuming we are even lucky enough to find a
> supplier!
>
> Gotta love those ads of Mac vs. PC though. Good laugh!
>
>


Yeah I think there's a sort of "Agreement" not to do that in the UK too,
I guess sometimes it can also work backwards but here in the US it is
not uncommon and often amusing.

Snit

"caver1" <caver@inthemud.com> stated in post
OqDLO1bJIHA.4880@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl on 11/12/07 11:19 PM:

> Snit wrote:
>> "Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> stated in post
>> jffij3pohvjkua91djbkvnlvpe6lcu6p6m@4ax.com on 11/12/07 11:02 PM:
>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:35:11 -0700, Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Tim Murray" <no-spam@thankyou.com> stated in post
>>>> zEa_i.4066$II4.2745@bignews3.bellsouth.net on 11/12/07 10:31 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2007, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>>>> No thanks. I don't watch commercials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I watch very little TV. When I do, I switch channels when commercials
>>>>>> come on. Most people do.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Actually they don't. Google the string "most people watch commercials"
>>>>>
>>>> Companies spend a lot of money on commercials... because the work.
>>> Something there's actually zero evidence for.
>>
>> So you think companies spend... what... millions or maybe billions of
>> dollars a year on commercials even though they have no reasonable
>> expectation that they work. Seems... well... unlikely.
>>
>>
>
>
> I remember serveral years ago when AnheuserBusch
> had to slow down because the union stuck. They cut
> way back on their advertising. Their sales fell.
> When the strike was over they resumed their
> advertising and stated that they figured that it
> would take three months for the ads to get their
> sales back up. Who wudda thunk that Bud needed
> advertising.

A lot of psychology studies are done by advertisers to find out what works
best - there is a *lot* of research in the field. To say there is "zero
evidence" that they work is just flat out wrong.

--
I am one of only .3% of people who have avoided becoming a statistic.

Snit

"Charlie Tame" <charlie@tames.net> stated in post
#WRFnzbJIHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl on 11/12/07 11:19 PM:

> Snit wrote:
>> "Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> stated in post
>> jffij3pohvjkua91djbkvnlvpe6lcu6p6m@4ax.com on 11/12/07 11:02 PM:
>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:35:11 -0700, Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Tim Murray" <no-spam@thankyou.com> stated in post
>>>> zEa_i.4066$II4.2745@bignews3.bellsouth.net on 11/12/07 10:31 PM:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2007, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>>>> No thanks. I don't watch commercials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I watch very little TV. When I do, I switch channels when commercials
>>>>>> come on. Most people do.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Actually they don't. Google the string "most people watch commercials"
>>>>>
>>>> Companies spend a lot of money on commercials... because the work.
>>> Something there's actually zero evidence for.
>>
>> So you think companies spend... what... millions or maybe billions of
>> dollars a year on commercials even though they have no reasonable
>> expectation that they work. Seems... well... unlikely.
>>
>>
>
>
> I dunno, corporate stupidity often seems to be lie ordinary stupidity
> but more successful

Corporations can be very, very stupid - but there is a *lot* of research on
advertising. To say there is "zero evidence" for them working is just
silly.


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dzomlija

Charlie Tame;512228 Wrote:
> dzomlija wrote:
>
>
> Yeah I think there's a sort of "Agreement" not to do that in the UK
> too, I guess sometimes it can also work backwards but here in the US it
> is not uncommon and often amusing.

It's not so much an "agreement" as it is a choke hold on freedom of
speech. Here, we can say what we want, went we want and how we want.
Just be prepared for a fight if you speak out against someone or
something. Especially in business.

This is why we've had only ONE Telecoms provider since the early 70's.
This is why we are threatened with jail time "if we don't pay our TV
licence" (which is, btw, a free over-the-air service). This is why we
pay around $84 for a 384Kb/s 1GB Capped "broadband". This is why when
police shoot a criminal in the line of duty to protect us, they get
charged with attempted murder.

I may not like the Americans much (too "high 'n mighty" for my taste,
sorry ), but you gotta admit, their laws regarding freedom of speech
are second to none!

And it shows in the advertising like these PC vs. Mac ads. Great stuff.


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dzomlija

____________________________________
Peter Alexander Dzomlija
Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
you die, so shall I be Reborn...

- ASUS A8N32-SLi-Deluxe
- AMD Atlon 64 Dual-Core 4800+
- 4GB DDR400
- ASUS nVidia 6600
- Thermaltake Tai-Chi Watercooled Chassis
- 1207GB Total Formatted Storage
- Vista Ultimate x64
- CodeGear Delphi 2007http://dzomlija.spaces.live.com/

Mayor of R'lyeh

On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:07:25 -0700, Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>
wrote:

>"Mayor of R'lyeh" <mayor.of.rlyeh@gmail.com> stated in post
>jffij3pohvjkua91djbkvnlvpe6lcu6p6m@4ax.com on 11/12/07 11:02 PM:
>
>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 22:35:11 -0700, Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Tim Murray" <no-spam@thankyou.com> stated in post
>>> zEa_i.4066$II4.2745@bignews3.bellsouth.net on 11/12/07 10:31 PM:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 2007, Bob Campbell wrote:
>>>>> No thanks. I don't watch commercials.
>>>>>
>>>>> I watch very little TV. When I do, I switch channels when commercials
>>>>> come on. Most people do.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Actually they don't. Google the string "most people watch commercials"
>>>>
>>> Companies spend a lot of money on commercials... because the work.
>>
>> Something there's actually zero evidence for.
>
>So you think companies spend... what... millions or maybe billions of
>dollars a year on commercials even though they have no reasonable
>expectation that they work. Seems... well... unlikely.

Still its true. Consider that what many consider the 'best' commercial
campaign ever - The California Raisins- saw a decrease in raisin sales
during its run.