Chris

How can Vista be speeded up for use on an old computer?

Are there things that can be turned off - and which make a lot of
difference?
--
Chris

Richard Urban

It would help if you gave the physical specs of your computer. Otherwise,
people like me will just tell you to upgrade your hardware.

Your turn. Specs please.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Chris" <nospam@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:1RPRGrDRivWGFwlj@[127.0.0.1]...
> How can Vista be speeded up for use on an old computer?
>
> Are there things that can be turned off - and which make a lot of
> difference?
> --
> Chris

Chad Harris

Hi Chris--

There sure are. Redmond default turns on services and processes that most
people will never use or have the requisite hdw and software for. They also
used to start wisptis.exe which is only needed for a pen for a tablet and my
figures are that tablets are not the majority although they are going to
grow and laptops notebooks are 50% of pc sales as of today.

Your old pc should have at least a GB of RAM IMHO, and the paradox is that
RAM for really old pcs can be very expensive if it's high end RAM like say
Crucial's best. RAM for newer pcs is exponentially cheaper so sometimes
there is the age old decision: do you upgrade the hdw on ole Rusty or do
you "buy a new pc Dude?" If you take steps to minimize CPU draw, you can
run Vista very well on some old pcs depending on the hdw but software moves
are crucial (no pun) as well.

I would advise you to shoo the pigs away from the resource troth. I'm
going to give you a
number of steps, but usually if spyware or malware or malicious scripts
rarely aren't the cause of this, defragging with a competent defragger
regularly (MSFT has one in Vista) and I recommend Perfect Disk from Raxco,
and cutting services and processes that Vista has on by default that you
don't need--you don't even have the hardware or software for some of them
works very well.

Don't judge a book by its cover - why Windows Vista Defrag is cool
http://blogs.technet.com/filecab/arc...g-is-cool.aspx

Perfect Disk
www.raxco.com

Below is a general outline for cleaning and speeding your PC:

******Speed PC and Control CPU Tips/Steps******

SPEED AND CPU:

_______________

1) Trim processes you don't need in TM. Google them or "search engine of

your choice them" if you have to.

2) Go to

services.msc in run box and turn off services not needed and there are some.

SERVICE CONFIGURATION REFERENCES*

*Vista Services*

Part One

http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx

Part Two

http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx

Windows Vista Services Tweak Guide v1.0

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=87443


3) Run System File Checker.

SFC: http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

In Vista run it from an elevated command prompt. Right click command on

start and run as administrator.

4) Run 3 or so spyware scans Windows Defender, , Adaware, and Spybot

5) Probably the most important for speed consistently and efficient resource

use DEFRAG with www.raxco.com or www.diskeeeper.com with 15% free space on

drive if DK and or >5% if Raxco's Perfect Disk.

http://groups.msn.com/windowsxpcentral/spyware.msnw

Download Adaware and

Spybot from here.

GOOD Overall Review for Defending Your PC:

http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

MSFT Defense Site MSFT Security:

http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.mspx

Protect Your PC from MSFT Security:

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.mspx

MSFT Windows Defender

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

MSFT MSRT: (Malicious Software Removal Tool)

http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx



MSFT "Windows One Care" in Wings (AV and Spyware Scans)

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/p...OneCarePR.mspx

6) Unck items from msconfig start tab you don't need starting and some

won't start--peoiple who think just uncking for many are naive because there

are 12 places things can be started including several reg keys like Run Once

keys and there are serveral.

7) Turn off Messaging service--it's a security vulnerability and it slows

you

8) Defrag very often every other day actually.

9) Turn off indexing.

10) Clear TIF and %temp% files (delete) and go to safe mode to get as many

as u can.

10) Do troubleshooting with msconfig.

11) Do Clean boot with msconfig utility and search for the directions here:





Vista RTM Tweak Guide (Tweaks to Improve Performances)

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...tm+tweak+guide



1) Task Manager lists the services on the services tab in Vista.

2) Type services.msc in run box and using the list of services, click the

service and you'll get a description of services.

3) There is a list here of the default services and a description>>click

"default settings for services" in the left pane.

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true



4) To view service dependencies

1.

Open Services.

2.

In the details pane, right-click the service that you want to view

dependencies for, and then click Properties.

3.

Click the Dependencies tab.

4.

To view services that are associated dependencies of the selected service,

in the list on the Dependencies tab, click the plus sign next to the

service.

Many of the services but not all in Vista are the same as in XP, so in that

context:

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/services.htm


Also see the extremely helpful site:

Black Viper's Service List

http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm


Black Viper's Site (Many of the same services in Vista)

http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP%20Services.htm


http://www.z123.org/techsupport/xpservices.htm


http://www.geocities.com/ziyadhosein/xpserv1.htm


http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php

This will be helpful

http://web.archive.org/web/200411280...servicecfg.htm

__________________________________________________ ____________________________________________

How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560/

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041/

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;316434

How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/

How to Disable a Service or Device that Prevents Windows from Starting

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310602/



Also ck out these references:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,5155,00.asp



http://www.speedupyourcomputer.windo....com/index.htm

and

http://www.extremetech.com/search_re...app=&site=4P.S.


Defragging with a decent defrag every day will make a huge dent inefficient
resource/CPU use.

Perfect Disk has a 5 month full functionality trial on now for Windows
Vista.

If you run Win One Care, it has its own spyware scanning, so you don't need
Windows Defender which ships with Vista turned on.

Good luck,

CH
______

Bush, Congress, and most of all Apathetic Americans getting the hypocritical
democracy they deserve running the gas guzzlers and filling Dover Coffins
with dead soldiers like it's goin' outta style:

Apathetic America shopping and running gas guzzlers, their Congress and
their moron leader are making lots more of these in the next few years:

Photos of Military Coffins
(Battlefield and Astronaut Fatalities)
at Dover Air Force Base

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/coffin_photos/dover/

War Without End
NYT Editorial

Never mind how badly the war is going in Iraq. President Bush has been
swaggering around like a victorious general because he cowed a wobbly
coalition of Democrats into dropping their attempt to impose a time limit on
his disastrous misadventure.

By week's end, Mr. Bush was acting as though that bit of parliamentary
strong-arming had left him free to ignore not just the Democrats, but also
the vast majority of Americans, who want him to stop chasing illusions of
victory and concentrate on how to stop the sacrifice of young Americans'
lives.

And, ever faithful to his illusions, Mr. Bush was insisting that he was the
only person who understood the true enemy.

Speaking to graduates of the Coast Guard Academy, Mr. Bush declared that Al
Qaeda is "public enemy No. 1" in Iraq and that "the terrorists' goal in Iraq
is to reignite sectarian violence and break support for the war here at
home." The next day, in the Rose Garden, Mr. Bush turned on a reporter who
had the temerity to ask about Mr. Bush's declining credibility with the
public, declaring that Al Qaeda is "a threat to your children" and accusing
him of naïvely ignoring the danger.

It's upsetting to think that Mr. Bush believes the raging sectarian violence
in Iraq awaits reigniting, or that he does not recognize that Americans'
support for the war broke down many bloody months ago. But we have grown
accustomed to this president's disconnect from reality and his habit of
tilting at straw men, like Americans who don't care about terrorism because
they question his mismanagement of the war or don't worry about what will
happen after the United States withdraws, as it inevitably must.

The really disturbing thing about Mr. Bush's comments is his painting of the
war in Iraq as an obvious-to-everyone-but-the-wrongheaded fight between the
United States and a young Iraqi democracy on one side, and Al Qaeda on the
other. That fails to acknowledge that the Shiite-dominated government of
Iraq is not a democracy and is at war with many of its own people. And it
removes all pressure from the Iraqi leadership - and Mr. Bush - to halt the
sectarian fighting and create a real democracy.

There is no doubt that organized Islamist terrorism - call it Al Qaeda or by
any other name - is a dire threat. There is also no doubt that terrorists
entered Iraq - mostly after the war began.

We, too, believe that Iraq has to be made as stable as possible so the
United States can withdraw its troops without unleashing even more chaos and
destruction. But Mr. Bush is not doing that and his version of reality only
makes it more unlikely. The only solution lies with the Iraqi leaders, who
have to stop their sectarian blood feud and make a real attempt to form a
united government. That is their best chance to stabilize the country, allow
the United States to withdraw and, yes, battle Al Qaeda.

The Democrats who called for imposing benchmarks for political progress on
the Iraqis, combined with a withdrawal date for American soldiers, were
trying to start that process. It's a shame they could not summon the will
and discipline to keep going, but we hope they have not given up. As
disjointed as the Democrats have been, their approach makes far more sense
than Mr. Bush's denial of Iraq's civil war and his war-without-end against
terror.

FRANK RICH: Operation Freedom From Iraqis
WHEN all else fails, those pious Americans who conceived and directed the
Iraq war fall back on moral self-congratulation: at least we brought liberty
and democracy to an oppressed people. But that last-ditch rationalization
has now become America's sorriest self-delusion in this tragedy.



However wholeheartedly we disposed of their horrific dictator, the Iraqis
were always pawns on the geopolitical chessboard rather than actual people
in the administration's reckless bet to "transform" the Middle East. From
"Stuff happens!" on, nearly every aspect of Washington policy in Iraq exuded
contempt for the beneficiaries of our supposed munificence. Now this animus
is completely out of the closet. Without Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz
to kick around anymore, the war's dead-enders are pinning the fiasco on the
Iraqis themselves. Our government abhors them almost as much as the Lou
Dobbs spear carriers loathe those swarming "aliens" from Mexico.



Iraqis are clamoring to get out of Iraq. Two million have fled so far and
nearly two million more have been displaced within the country. (That's a
total of some 15 percent of the population.) Save the Children reported this
month that Iraq's child-survival rate is falling faster than any other
nation's. One Iraqi in eight is killed by illness or violence by the age of
5. Yet for all the words President Bush has lavished on Darfur and AIDS in
Africa, there has been a deadly silence from him about what's happening in
the country he gave "God's gift of freedom."




It's easy to see why. To admit that Iraqis are voting with their feet is to
concede that American policy is in ruins. A "secure" Iraq is a mirage, and,
worse, those who can afford to leave are the very professionals who might
have helped build one. Thus the president says nothing about Iraq's
humanitarian crisis, the worst in the Middle East since 1948, much as he
tried to hide the American death toll in Iraq by keeping the troops' coffins
off-camera and staying away from military funerals.



But his silence about Iraq's mass exodus is not merely another instance of
deceptive White House P.R.; it's part of a policy with a huge human cost.
The easiest way to keep the Iraqi plight out of sight, after all, is to
prevent Iraqis from coming to America. And so we do, except for stray
Shiites needed to remind us of purple fingers at State of the Union time or
to frame the president in Rose Garden photo ops.



Since the 2003 invasion, America has given only 466 Iraqis asylum. Sweden,
which was not in the coalition of the willing, plans to admit 25,000 Iraqis
this year alone. Our State Department, goaded by January hearings conducted
by Ted Kennedy, says it will raise the number for this year to 7,000 (a
figure that, small as it is, may be more administration propaganda). A bill
passed by Congress this month will add another piddling 500, all
interpreters.




In reality, more than 5,000 interpreters worked for the Americans. So did
tens of thousands of drivers and security guards who also, in Senator
Kennedy's phrase, have "an assassin's bull's-eye on their backs" because
they served the occupying government and its contractors over the past
four-plus years. How we feel about these Iraqis was made naked by one of the
administration's most fervent hawks, the former United Nations ambassador
John Bolton, speaking to The Times Magazine this month. He claimed that the
Iraqi refugee problem had "absolutely nothing to do" with Saddam's
overthrow: "Our obligation was to give them new institutions and provide
security. We have fulfilled that obligation. I don't think we have an
obligation to compensate for the hardships of war."



Actually, we haven't fulfilled the obligation of giving them functioning
institutions and security. One of the many reasons we didn't was that L.
Paul Bremer's provisional authority staffed the Green Zone with unqualified
but well-connected Republican hacks who, in some cases, were hired after
they expressed their opposition to Roe v. Wade. The administration is
nothing if not consistent in its employment practices. The assistant
secretary in charge of refugees at the State Department now, Ellen
Sauerbrey, is a twice-defeated Republican candidate for governor of Maryland
with no experience in humanitarian crises but a hefty résumé in
anti-abortion politics. She is to Iraqis seeking rescue what Brownie was to
Katrina victims stranded in the Superdome.




Ms. Sauerbrey's official line on Iraqi refugees, delivered to Scott Pelley
of "60 Minutes" in March, is that most of them "really want to go home." The
administration excuse for keeping Iraqis out of America is national
security: we have to vet every prospective immigrant for terrorist ties. But
many of those with the most urgent cases for resettlement here were vetted
already, when the American government and its various Halliburton
subsidiaries asked them to risk their lives by hiring them in the first
place. For those whose loyalties can no longer be vouched for, there is the
contrasting lesson of Vietnam. Julia Taft, the official in charge of
refugees in the Ford administration, reminded Mr. Pelley that 131,000
Vietnamese were resettled in America within eight months of the fall of
Saigon, despite loud, Dobbs-like opposition at the time. In the past seven
months, the total number of Iraqis admitted to America was 69.



The diplomat Richard Holbrooke, whose career began during the Vietnam War,
told me that security worries then were addressed by a vetting process
carried out in safe, preliminary asylum camps for refugees set up beyond
Vietnam's borders in Asia. But as Mr. Holbrooke also points out in the
current Foreign Affairs magazine, the real forerunner to American treatment
of Iraqi refugees isn't that war in any case, but World War II. That's when
an anti-Semitic assistant secretary of state, Breckinridge Long, tirelessly
obstructed the visa process to prevent Jews from obtaining sanctuary in
America, not even filling the available slots under existing quotas. As many
as 75,000 such refugees were turned away before the Germans cut off exit
visas to Jews in late 1941, according to Howard Sachar's "History of the
Jews in America."



Like the Jews, Iraqis are useful scapegoats. This month Mr. Bremer declared
that the real culprits for his disastrous 2003 decision to cleanse Iraq of
Baathist officials were unnamed Iraqi politicians who "broadened the
decree's
impact far beyond our original design." The Republican leader in the Senate,
Mitch McConnell, is chastising the Iraqis for being unable "to do anything
they promised."



The new White House policy, as Zbigniew Brzezinski has joked, is "blame and
run." It started to take shape just before the midterm elections last fall,
when Mr. Rumsfeld wrote a memo (propitiously leaked after his
defenestration) suggesting that the Iraqis might "have to pull up their
socks, step up and take responsibility for their country." By January, Mr.
Bush was saying that "the Iraqi people owe the American people a huge debt
of gratitude" and wondering aloud "whether or not there is a gratitude level
that's significant enough in Iraq." In February, one of the war's leading
neocon cheerleaders among the Beltway punditocracy lowered the boom. "Iraq
is their country," Charles Krauthammer wrote. "We midwifed their freedom.
They chose civil war." Bill O'Reilly and others now echo this cry.




The message is clear enough: These ungrateful losers deserve everything
that's
coming to them. The Iraqis hear us and are returning the compliment. Whether
Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki is mocking American demands for timelines and
benchmarks, or the Iraqi Parliament is setting its own timeline for American
withdrawal even while flaunting its vacation schedule, Iraq's nominal
government is saying it's fed up. The American-Iraqi shotgun marriage of
convenience, midwifed by disastrous Bush foreign policy, has disintegrated
into the marriage from hell.



While the world waits for the White House and Congress to negotiate the
separation agreement, the damage to the innocent family members caught in
the cross-fire is only getting worse. Despite Mr. Bush's May 10 claim that
"the number of sectarian murders has dropped substantially" since the surge
began, The Washington Post reported on Thursday that the number of such
murders is going up. For the Americans, the cost is no less dear. Casualty
figures confirm that the past six months have been the deadliest yet for our
troops.



While it seems but a dim memory now, once upon a time some Iraqis did greet
the Americans as liberators. Today, in fact, it is just such Iraqis - not
the local Iraqi insurgents the president conflates with Osama bin Laden's
Qaeda in Pakistan - who do want to follow us home. That we are slamming the
door in their faces tells you all you need to know about the real morality
beneath all the professed good intentions of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Though
the war's godfathers saw themselves as ridding the world of another Hitler,
their legacy includes a humanitarian catastrophe that will need its own
Raoul Wallenbergs and Oskar Schindlers if lives are to be saved.



MAUREEN DOWD: Bush's Fleurs du Mal
WASHINGTON

For me, the saddest spot in Washington is the inverted V of the black
granite Vietnam wall, jutting up with the names of young men dying in a war
that their leaders already knew could not be won.

So many died because of ego and deceit - because L.B.J. and Robert McNamara
wanted to save face or because Henry Kissinger wanted to protect Nixon's
re-election chances.

Now the Bush administration finds itself at that same hour of shame. It
knows the surge is not working. Iraq is in a civil war, with a gruesome
bonus of terrorists mixed in. April was the worst month this year for the
American military, with 104 soldiers killed, and there have been about 90
killed thus far in May. The democracy's not jelling, as Iraqi lawmakers get
ready to slouch off for a two-month vacation, leaving our kids to be blown
up.

The top-flight counterinsurgency team that President Bush sent in after long
years of pretending that we'd "turned the corner" doesn't believe there's a
military solution. General Petraeus is reduced to writing an open letter to
the Iraqi public, pleading with them to reject sectarianism and violence,
even as the Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr slinks back from four months in
Iran, rallying his fans by crying: "No, no, no to Satan! No, no, no to
America! No, no, no to occupation! No, no, no to Israel!"

W. thinks he can save face if he keeps taunting Democrats as the party of
surrender - just as Nixon did - and dumps the Frankenstate he's created on
his successor.

"The enemy in Vietnam had neither the intent nor the capability to strike
our homeland," he told Coast Guard Academy graduates. "The enemy in Iraq
does. Nine-eleven taught us that to protect the American people we must
fight the terrorists where they live so that we don't have to fight them
where we live."

The president said an intelligence report (which turned out to be two years
old) showed that Osama had been trying to send Qaeda terrorists in Iraq to
attack America. So clearly, Osama is capable of multitasking: Order the
killers in Iraq to go after American soldiers there and American civilians
here. There AND here. Get it, W.?

The president is on a continuous loop of sophistry: We have to push on in
Iraq because Al Qaeda is there, even though Al Qaeda is there because we
pushed into Iraq. Our troops have to keep dying there because our troops
have been dying there. We have to stay so the enemy doesn't know we're
leaving. Osama hasn't been found because he's hiding.

The terrorists moved into George Bush's Iraq, not Saddam Hussein's. W.'s
ranting about Al Qaeda there is like planting fleurs du mal and then
complaining your garden is toxic.

The president looked as if he wanted to smack David Gregory when the NBC
reporter asked him at the news conference Thursday if he could still be "a
credible messenger on the war" given all the mistakes and all the
disillusioned Republicans.

"I'm credible because I read the intelligence, David," he replied sharply.

But he isn't and he doesn't. Otherwise he might have read "Bin Laden
Determined to Strike in U.S." in August 2001, and might have read the prewar
intelligence reports the Senate just released that presciently forecast the
horrors in store for naïve presidents who race to war because they want to
be seen as hard, not soft.

Intelligence analysts may have muffed the W.M.D. issue, but they accurately
predicted that implanting democracy in Iraq would be an "alien" idea that
could lead to turbulence and violence; that Al Qaeda would hook up with
Saddam loyalists and "angry young recruits" to militant Islam to "wage
guerrilla warfare" on American forces, and that Iran and Al Qaeda would be
the winners if the Bushies botched the occupation.

W. repeated last week that he would never retreat, but his advisers are
working on ways to retreat. After the surge, in lieu of strategy, come the
"concepts."

Condi Rice, Bob Gates and generals at the Pentagon are talking about
long-range "concepts" for reducing forces in Iraq, The Times reported
yesterday, as a way to tamp down criticism, including from Republicans; it
is also an acknowledgment that they can't sustain the current force level
there much longer. The article said that officials were starting to think
about how to halve the 20 American combat brigades in Iraq, sometime in the
second half of 2008.

As the Hollywood screenwriter said in "Annie Hall": "Right now it's only a
notion, but I think I can get money to make it into a concept and later turn
it into an idea."





http://johnedwards.com/news/speeches/20060622/


Jun 22, 2006
Senator John Edwards
Washington, DC







"Chris" <nospam@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:1RPRGrDRivWGFwlj@[127.0.0.1]...
> How can Vista be speeded up for use on an old computer?
>
> Are there things that can be turned off - and which make a lot of
> difference?
> --
> Chris

Stephan Rose

"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote:

> Hi Chris--
>
> There sure are. Redmond default turns on services and processes that most
> people will never use or have the requisite hdw and software for. They
> also used to start wisptis.exe which is only needed for a pen for a tablet
> and my figures are that tablets are not the majority although they are
> going to grow and laptops notebooks are 50% of pc sales as of today.
>
> Your old pc should have at least a GB of RAM IMHO, and the paradox is that
> RAM for really old pcs can be very expensive if it's high end RAM like say
> Crucial's best. RAM for newer pcs is exponentially cheaper so sometimes
> there is the age old decision: do you upgrade the hdw on ole Rusty or do
> you "buy a new pc Dude?" If you take steps to minimize CPU draw, you can
> run Vista very well on some old pcs depending on the hdw but software
> moves are crucial (no pun) as well.
>
> I would advise you to shoo the pigs away from the resource troth. I'm
> going to give you a
> number of steps, but usually if spyware or malware or malicious scripts
> rarely aren't the cause of this, defragging with a competent defragger
> regularly (MSFT has one in Vista) and I recommend Perfect Disk from Raxco,
> and cutting services and processes that Vista has on by default that you
> don't need--you don't even have the hardware or software for some of them
> works very well.
>
> Don't judge a book by its cover - why Windows Vista Defrag is cool
>

It isn't cool, it is actually sad that in todays age windows STILL needs a
defragger!

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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Frank

Stephan Rose wrote:

>
> It isn't cool, it is actually sad that in todays age windows STILL needs a
> defragger!
>

Stephan, why do you think Windows OS's still need defragger's?
Frank

Tiberius

vista cant be speeded up much..

the best solution I have found for very low spec systems is to use VLITE
and create your own LITE version of Vista by removing everything that you
dont absolutly need
www.vlite.net people have been able to reduce the dvd into the size of a
cd.....
http://www.vlite.net/about.html

this does need a bit of experience... but its easy if you have done it once.


also here are my 12 ways to make vista go fast:


1. drop it off the empire state building, you will have g accelaretion minus
air friction. Use an aerodynamic case.
2. Stuff it inside a nuclear cannon and pull the trigger.
3. Place on top of a Saturn 3 stage rocket and hurl it into space
4. Place it inside the CERN particle accelerator
5. Send it inside a black hole where it will accelerate close to the speed
of light
6. Place it inside a small time machine, so that its time continuum is
faster than ours
7. Take your vista and install it on the computer from the crashed Roswell
UFO that is a trillion trillion teraflops,
it will probably slow it to a crawl, but the dead aliens wont care much.
8. Freeze all humanity in hypothermic stasis using cryogenics until vista
finished loading a program, then when its finished, thaw them. Vista will
not really be faster, but at least you wont die waiting for it.
9. Kill yourself and let your ghost use vista, as a ghost time has no
meaning,
10. Collide vista that is made of matter with anti-vista that is made from
antimatter. The result will be an explosion were all matter is converted to
pure energy in the form of gamma rays traveling at the speed of light.
11. Place Vista on top of a Tesla coil and step up the voltage to 100
million volts. An electrical surge of all the static electricity in the
stratosphere will surge through it and send it to the 5th dimension creating
a teleporting effect similar to the one in the Philadelphia experiment.
12. Install XP and make it into a fake vista with themes and wallpapers...
it will be 100% faster than the real horrid thing.

-thank you


"Chris" <nospam@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
news:1RPRGrDRivWGFwlj@[127.0.0.1]...
> How can Vista be speeded up for use on an old computer?
>
> Are there things that can be turned off - and which make a lot of
> difference?
> --
> Chris

Chad Harris

Stephan--

You raise a very interesting point. I don't know enough about Windows
architecture to start to posit how it could be constructed not to need
defragging. Mac OS's and others need defragging as well. Defragging does
not seem to be as necessary in Linux systems:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1455687,00.asp

This is the kind of question I'd like to pitch to Mark Russinovitch types:

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...s/default.mspx

CH


"Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
news:mcadnQlEoZAkmcbbnZ2dnUVZ8q2dnZ2d@giganews.com ...
> "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris--
>>
>> There sure are. Redmond default turns on services and processes that
>> most
>> people will never use or have the requisite hdw and software for. They
>> also used to start wisptis.exe which is only needed for a pen for a
>> tablet
>> and my figures are that tablets are not the majority although they are
>> going to grow and laptops notebooks are 50% of pc sales as of today.
>>
>> Your old pc should have at least a GB of RAM IMHO, and the paradox is
>> that
>> RAM for really old pcs can be very expensive if it's high end RAM like
>> say
>> Crucial's best. RAM for newer pcs is exponentially cheaper so sometimes
>> there is the age old decision: do you upgrade the hdw on ole Rusty or do
>> you "buy a new pc Dude?" If you take steps to minimize CPU draw, you
>> can
>> run Vista very well on some old pcs depending on the hdw but software
>> moves are crucial (no pun) as well.
>>
>> I would advise you to shoo the pigs away from the resource troth. I'm
>> going to give you a
>> number of steps, but usually if spyware or malware or malicious scripts
>> rarely aren't the cause of this, defragging with a competent defragger
>> regularly (MSFT has one in Vista) and I recommend Perfect Disk from
>> Raxco,
>> and cutting services and processes that Vista has on by default that you
>> don't need--you don't even have the hardware or software for some of them
>> works very well.
>>
>> Don't judge a book by its cover - why Windows Vista Defrag is cool
>>
>
> It isn't cool, it is actually sad that in todays age windows STILL needs a
> defragger!
>
> --
> Stephan
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>
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Chad Harris

Hey Tiberius--

Have you hit on the Letterman show? You might be able to do a Top 10 or
perhaps get Gates, Ballmer and Ozzie along with Stephen Hawking to present
that as a Top 12 list or still better have Jobs present that at his joint
appearance on stage in a disucssion with Bill Gates on Wednesday.

Vlite is interesting, but I respectfully disagree with you that you can't
speed Vista a helluvalot because I do it on peoples' boxes frequently by
showing them good habits for elminating CPU grabbers that absolutely has no
relevance to anything they are runninng and helping them to maximize the
hardware deck they have or in some instances upgrading their hardware
depending on a cost benefit decision.

We don't have any particle accelerators in my neighborhood, but I could
pitch it to the city council. The hypothermic stasis seems like a great
proposal for Bush, Condi, et. al.

I also appreciate knowing that anti-Vista is made of anti-matter--a physics
concept for the ages, but I thought ghost time definitely had meaning. :> )

CH


"Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
news:up9nE0UoHHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> vista cant be speeded up much..
>
> the best solution I have found for very low spec systems is to use VLITE
> and create your own LITE version of Vista by removing everything that you
> dont absolutly need
> www.vlite.net people have been able to reduce the dvd into the size of a
> cd.....
> http://www.vlite.net/about.html
>
> this does need a bit of experience... but its easy if you have done it
> once.
>
>
> also here are my 12 ways to make vista go fast:
>
>
> 1. drop it off the empire state building, you will have g accelaretion
> minus
> air friction. Use an aerodynamic case.
> 2. Stuff it inside a nuclear cannon and pull the trigger.
> 3. Place on top of a Saturn 3 stage rocket and hurl it into space
> 4. Place it inside the CERN particle accelerator
> 5. Send it inside a black hole where it will accelerate close to the speed
> of light
> 6. Place it inside a small time machine, so that its time continuum is
> faster than ours
> 7. Take your vista and install it on the computer from the crashed Roswell
> UFO that is a trillion trillion teraflops,
> it will probably slow it to a crawl, but the dead aliens wont care much.
> 8. Freeze all humanity in hypothermic stasis using cryogenics until vista
> finished loading a program, then when its finished, thaw them. Vista will
> not really be faster, but at least you wont die waiting for it.
> 9. Kill yourself and let your ghost use vista, as a ghost time has no
> meaning,
> 10. Collide vista that is made of matter with anti-vista that is made from
> antimatter. The result will be an explosion were all matter is converted
> to
> pure energy in the form of gamma rays traveling at the speed of light.
> 11. Place Vista on top of a Tesla coil and step up the voltage to 100
> million volts. An electrical surge of all the static electricity in the
> stratosphere will surge through it and send it to the 5th dimension
> creating
> a teleporting effect similar to the one in the Philadelphia experiment.
> 12. Install XP and make it into a fake vista with themes and wallpapers...
> it will be 100% faster than the real horrid thing.
>
> -thank you
>
>
> "Chris" <nospam@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
> news:1RPRGrDRivWGFwlj@[127.0.0.1]...
>> How can Vista be speeded up for use on an old computer?
>>
>> Are there things that can be turned off - and which make a lot of
>> difference?
>> --
>> Chris
>
>

Tiberius

I know all the tweaks....after doing them vista still craws like a klingon
earthworm that has been stomped on.

Only by hacking at it like a berserker with vlite you can possibly make it
faster...


"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
news:edwfQ8UoHHA.4428@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hey Tiberius--
>
> Have you hit on the Letterman show? You might be able to do a Top 10 or
> perhaps get Gates, Ballmer and Ozzie along with Stephen Hawking to present
> that as a Top 12 list or still better have Jobs present that at his joint
> appearance on stage in a disucssion with Bill Gates on Wednesday.
>
> Vlite is interesting, but I respectfully disagree with you that you can't
> speed Vista a helluvalot because I do it on peoples' boxes frequently by
> showing them good habits for elminating CPU grabbers that absolutely has
> no relevance to anything they are runninng and helping them to maximize
> the hardware deck they have or in some instances upgrading their hardware
> depending on a cost benefit decision.
>
> We don't have any particle accelerators in my neighborhood, but I could
> pitch it to the city council. The hypothermic stasis seems like a great
> proposal for Bush, Condi, et. al.
>
> I also appreciate knowing that anti-Vista is made of anti-matter--a
> physics concept for the ages, but I thought ghost time definitely had
> meaning. :> )
>
> CH
>
>
> "Tiberius" <James@tiberius.kirk> wrote in message
> news:up9nE0UoHHA.4196@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> vista cant be speeded up much..
>>
>> the best solution I have found for very low spec systems is to use VLITE
>> and create your own LITE version of Vista by removing everything that you
>> dont absolutly need
>> www.vlite.net people have been able to reduce the dvd into the size of a
>> cd.....
>> http://www.vlite.net/about.html
>>
>> this does need a bit of experience... but its easy if you have done it
>> once.
>>
>>
>> also here are my 12 ways to make vista go fast:
>>
>>
>> 1. drop it off the empire state building, you will have g accelaretion
>> minus
>> air friction. Use an aerodynamic case.
>> 2. Stuff it inside a nuclear cannon and pull the trigger.
>> 3. Place on top of a Saturn 3 stage rocket and hurl it into space
>> 4. Place it inside the CERN particle accelerator
>> 5. Send it inside a black hole where it will accelerate close to the
>> speed
>> of light
>> 6. Place it inside a small time machine, so that its time continuum is
>> faster than ours
>> 7. Take your vista and install it on the computer from the crashed
>> Roswell
>> UFO that is a trillion trillion teraflops,
>> it will probably slow it to a crawl, but the dead aliens wont care much.
>> 8. Freeze all humanity in hypothermic stasis using cryogenics until vista
>> finished loading a program, then when its finished, thaw them. Vista will
>> not really be faster, but at least you wont die waiting for it.
>> 9. Kill yourself and let your ghost use vista, as a ghost time has no
>> meaning,
>> 10. Collide vista that is made of matter with anti-vista that is made
>> from
>> antimatter. The result will be an explosion were all matter is converted
>> to
>> pure energy in the form of gamma rays traveling at the speed of light.
>> 11. Place Vista on top of a Tesla coil and step up the voltage to 100
>> million volts. An electrical surge of all the static electricity in the
>> stratosphere will surge through it and send it to the 5th dimension
>> creating
>> a teleporting effect similar to the one in the Philadelphia experiment.
>> 12. Install XP and make it into a fake vista with themes and
>> wallpapers...
>> it will be 100% faster than the real horrid thing.
>>
>> -thank you
>>
>>
>> "Chris" <nospam@[127.0.0.1]> wrote in message
>> news:1RPRGrDRivWGFwlj@[127.0.0.1]...
>>> How can Vista be speeded up for use on an old computer?
>>>
>>> Are there things that can be turned off - and which make a lot of
>>> difference?
>>> --
>>> Chris
>>
>>
>

Tiberius

linux systems are better at handling fragmentation... and that's why they
don't even include a defragger
on most linux distros.. however fragmentation can occur when the disk starts
getting almost completely filled up.

NTFS claimed that it didn't need defrag at one point.. hastily Microsoft
changed their story knowing that
it would produce an uproar of complaints



"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
news:eWffe2UoHHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Stephan--
>
> You raise a very interesting point. I don't know enough about Windows
> architecture to start to posit how it could be constructed not to need
> defragging. Mac OS's and others need defragging as well. Defragging does
> not seem to be as necessary in Linux systems:
>
> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1455687,00.asp
>
> This is the kind of question I'd like to pitch to Mark Russinovitch types:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...s/default.mspx
>
> CH
>
>
> "Stephan Rose" <kermos@nospam.somrek.net> wrote in message
> news:mcadnQlEoZAkmcbbnZ2dnUVZ8q2dnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> "Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris--
>>