Kier

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:55:19 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

<snip>

> The problem with ubuntu 7.10 is that you get exactly the same warning screen
> if you select use available free space or if you select use whole disk so be
> extra careful you select the correct one as you can't tell when the final
> warning is given.

It's always wise to be careful when doing any kind of disk partitioning.
One reason I particularly like Mandriva's GUI partitioning tool is that
it's very obvious what you are doing.

--
Kier

forty-nine

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fi9uhl$f31$2@aioe.org...
> TONY TROMBOLI wrote:
>> <krotch.kricket@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:a95a95db-cd2f-4cba-ba4c-c4b09bb07855@w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> If installing Ubuntu be careful for hdisk corruption. It will also
>>> over write your Windows partition rendering your data unrecoverable.
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....20/+bug/84603
>>>
>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....15/+bug/53102
>>>
>>> Linux, the operating system that keeps you busy.
>>
>>
>> TRUE. I tried a Ubuntu "Live CD" not too long ago to see what all the
>> hype was about. It booted fine in my AMD 3.4Ghz + 1-Gig RAM machine that
>> currently has Windows XP installed. I played around with Ubuntu and it
>> ran OK. It was running from the CD so I could understand why it wasn't
>> very zippy. The video was pretty slow using the generic driver from the
>> CD but I could probably fix that eventually if I wanted to. It saw my
>> NTFS drive which was neat at the time.
>>
>> So I'm done playing with Ubuntu and tell it to shutdown and it does. It
>> tells me to remember to remove the Live CD which I do. The next time that
>> I reboot my computer it simply doesn't boot. The boot sector or something
>> was hosed. In the end I had to re-install Windows to FIX whatever it was
>> that Ubuntu Live CD screwed up.
>>
>> Yeah - That's a serious "bug" they have there.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Your problem had nothing to do with the Live CD. I have run Live CDs on
> dozens of computers with no ill effects at all. The Live CD doesn't
> install *anything* unless you tell it to and you probably did.
>
> Alias


And even if you tell it to install...It Still installs Nothing useful !
You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.

philo

"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
newsan.2007.11.24.21.25.09@lazyeyez.net...
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:01:38 -0800, krotch.kricket wrote:
>
> > If installing Ubuntu be careful for hdisk corruption. It will also over
> > write your Windows partition rendering your data unrecoverable.
> >
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....20/+bug/84603
>
> The above link is completely unrelated to any sort of hard disk
> corruption.
>
> >
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....15/+bug/53102
>
> Affects EXT3 only and is only present in that (old) kernel. 2.6.22 is the
> latest.
>
> >

I saw that but the OP was referring to Ubuntu ruining his Windows
installation

Jerry McBride

krotch.kricket@gmail.com wrote:

> If installing Ubuntu be careful for hdisk corruption. It will also
> over write your Windows partition rendering your data unrecoverable.
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....20/+bug/84603
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....15/+bug/53102
>
> Linux, the operating system that keeps you busy.

The Windows Weenies are getting desperate, digging up old news. In case they
haven't noticed... the current stable kernel is 2.6.23.8. An easy upgrade
for any current distribution.




--

Jerry McBride (jmcbride@mail-on.us)

peterwn

On Nov 25, 10:12 am, Timberwoof
<timberwoof.s...@inferNOnoSPAMsoft.com> wrote:

>
> The end result is that if a hacker got physical possession of your
> computer, he could, using the Ubuntu install disk, delete all your
> sensitive information! = = =
>

That is why in commercial and similar environments, the administrator
sets a BIOS password
to stop the computer being booted from CD's, floppies, sticks etc. If
using the GRUB boot loader, this needs to be similarly protected.

By the way, a Windows installation CD is also quite capable of
destroying data on a hard disk.

Alias

forty-nine wrote:
> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fi9uhl$f31$2@aioe.org...
>> TONY TROMBOLI wrote:
>>> <krotch.kricket@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:a95a95db-cd2f-4cba-ba4c-c4b09bb07855@w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> If installing Ubuntu be careful for hdisk corruption. It will also
>>>> over write your Windows partition rendering your data unrecoverable.
>>>>
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....20/+bug/84603
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....15/+bug/53102
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Linux, the operating system that keeps you busy.
>>>
>>>
>>> TRUE. I tried a Ubuntu "Live CD" not too long ago to see what all the
>>> hype was about. It booted fine in my AMD 3.4Ghz + 1-Gig RAM machine
>>> that currently has Windows XP installed. I played around with Ubuntu
>>> and it ran OK. It was running from the CD so I could understand why
>>> it wasn't very zippy. The video was pretty slow using the generic
>>> driver from the CD but I could probably fix that eventually if I
>>> wanted to. It saw my NTFS drive which was neat at the time.
>>>
>>> So I'm done playing with Ubuntu and tell it to shutdown and it does.
>>> It tells me to remember to remove the Live CD which I do. The next
>>> time that I reboot my computer it simply doesn't boot. The boot
>>> sector or something was hosed. In the end I had to re-install Windows
>>> to FIX whatever it was that Ubuntu Live CD screwed up.
>>>
>>> Yeah - That's a serious "bug" they have there.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Your problem had nothing to do with the Live CD. I have run Live CDs
>> on dozens of computers with no ill effects at all. The Live CD doesn't
>> install *anything* unless you tell it to and you probably did.
>>
>> Alias
>
>
> And even if you tell it to install...It Still installs Nothing useful !
> You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
>

It's useful enough that I can use it to tell you you're full of it.

Alias

alt

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:29:06 -0600, philo wrote:

> "alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
> newsan.2007.11.24.21.25.09@lazyeyez.net...
>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 11:01:38 -0800, krotch.kricket wrote:
>>
>> > If installing Ubuntu be careful for hdisk corruption. It will also
>> > over write your Windows partition rendering your data unrecoverable.
>> >
>> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...source-2.6.20/
+bug/84603
>>
>> The above link is completely unrelated to any sort of hard disk
>> corruption.
>>
>>
>> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...source-2.6.15/
+bug/53102
>>
>> Affects EXT3 only and is only present in that (old) kernel. 2.6.22 is
>> the latest.
>>
>>
>> >
> I saw that but the OP was referring to Ubuntu ruining his Windows
> installation

How would one know the difference? Windows has a habit of destroying
itself. Sometimes Microsoft even helps.

Paul Knudsen

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 14:25:01 -0500, "TONY TROMBOLI" <tman@gmail.com>
wrote:

>> If installing Ubuntu be careful for hdisk corruption. It will also
>> over write your Windows partition rendering your data unrecoverable.

Well, most people know enough to make a complete backup before doing
an install like this.

Still, I'm surprised Ubuntu does not at least ask before overwriting
something.

Paul Hovnanian P.E.

krotch.kricket@gmail.com wrote:
>
> If installing Ubuntu be careful for hdisk corruption. It will also
> over write your Windows partition
[snip]

Good.

Now, your point is what exactly?

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forty-nine

"Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message news:fiafo0$7rr$2@aioe.org...
> forty-nine wrote:
>> "Alias" <alias@aliasmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:fi9uhl$f31$2@aioe.org...
>>> TONY TROMBOLI wrote:
>>>> <krotch.kricket@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:a95a95db-cd2f-4cba-ba4c-c4b09bb07855@w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> If installing Ubuntu be careful for hdisk corruption. It will also
>>>>> over write your Windows partition rendering your data unrecoverable.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....20/+bug/84603
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s....15/+bug/53102
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux, the operating system that keeps you busy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> TRUE. I tried a Ubuntu "Live CD" not too long ago to see what all the
>>>> hype was about. It booted fine in my AMD 3.4Ghz + 1-Gig RAM machine
>>>> that currently has Windows XP installed. I played around with Ubuntu
>>>> and it ran OK. It was running from the CD so I could understand why it
>>>> wasn't very zippy. The video was pretty slow using the generic driver
>>>> from the CD but I could probably fix that eventually if I wanted to. It
>>>> saw my NTFS drive which was neat at the time.
>>>>
>>>> So I'm done playing with Ubuntu and tell it to shutdown and it does. It
>>>> tells me to remember to remove the Live CD which I do. The next time
>>>> that I reboot my computer it simply doesn't boot. The boot sector or
>>>> something was hosed. In the end I had to re-install Windows to FIX
>>>> whatever it was that Ubuntu Live CD screwed up.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah - That's a serious "bug" they have there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Your problem had nothing to do with the Live CD. I have run Live CDs on
>>> dozens of computers with no ill effects at all. The Live CD doesn't
>>> install *anything* unless you tell it to and you probably did.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>>
>> And even if you tell it to install...It Still installs Nothing useful !
>> You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't.
>>
>
> It's useful enough that I can use it to tell you you're full of it.
>
> Alias


Full of what ?
That I wouldn't install ubarktoo if it was free ?
I wouldn't...that's no lie.

For being over 60, kinda late in life to be discovering new OS's....don't ya
think ?