4GB memory

Bob Campbell

"B. Smith" <> wrote in message
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> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>> The 32 bit edition of Windows Vista will only utilise around 3.3 to 3.5GB
>> of memory therefore to use more than 3.3/3.5GB you will need the 64 bit
>> edition.
>>
>
> And yet ... 64 bit Windows can't possible hand off 4 GB of RAM to 32 bit
> applications.

Well duh. That's because it is a 32 bit application, not a flaw in 64 bit
Vista!

But the 4 GB RAM will allow you to run more 32 bit apps than the 3 GB in 32
bit. Hell, I have 8 GB and sometimes wish I had more! I use many VMs in
VPC.

64 bit is not a passing fad. It is here. 32 bit will soon be the distant
memory.

B. Smith

"Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
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> "B. Smith" <> wrote in message
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>> "John Barnett MVP" <freelance@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>>> The 32 bit edition of Windows Vista will only utilise around 3.3 to
>>> 3.5GB of memory therefore to use more than 3.3/3.5GB you will need the
>>> 64 bit edition.
>>>
>>
>> And yet ... 64 bit Windows can't possible hand off 4 GB of RAM to 32 bit
>> applications.
>
> Well duh. That's because it is a 32 bit application, not a flaw in 64
> bit Vista!
>
> But the 4 GB RAM will allow you to run more 32 bit apps than the 3 GB in
> 32 bit. Hell, I have 8 GB and sometimes wish I had more! I use many VMs
> in VPC.
>
> 64 bit is not a passing fad. It is here. 32 bit will soon be the distant
> memory.


So---you think selling 64-bit piss poor systems to consumers is a good idea
?
Not to geeks , mind you...

Old women were being talked into this BS by a best buy flunkie ... until I
stepped in.

Those old women don't need a 64-bit 8 GB RAM pos graphics loser PC being
pre-configured by Gateway.

It was a POS...and 64 bit is years away from mainstream .... years away.
Think consumer for once...not geek -fest '09

B. Smith

"the wharf rat" <> wrote in message
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> In article <.gbl>,
> B. Smith <> wrote:
>>
>>So the stupid PC's sold with 8 GB RAM are a cheap scam.
>>
>
> They run Linux real good...
>


600Mhz P3's run linux too.
I don't want one.

vistaHater9000

In that case then yes I'd have to agree. But at the same time it's the
lack of knowledge that keeps the consumer falling into these ploys.
However, it's not their fault. A good employee is an honest employee. I
couldn't say I wouldn't try to sell an idiot a $5000 computer if he
could buy it. Even if it is a waste of his money and of computer
resources. It's business!

As for Linux... I'm not sure if there will ever be a day (IMO) that the
average consumer decides to become Linux-Savvy so all the 'joys' of the
PC world are left to the geeks!


--
vistaHater9000

Bob Campbell

"B. Smith" <> wrote in message
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> So---you think selling 64-bit piss poor systems to consumers is a good
> idea ?
> Not to geeks , mind you...

Yes. Why not? If you want the machine to last more than a 3 years, 64
bit is the way to go now. It beats the hell out of a "32 bit piss poor
system".

Nearly all machines being sold these days are 64 bit hardware. Why saddle
them with a 32 bit OS?

> It was a POS...and 64 bit is years away from mainstream .... years away.

Yeah, about 2 years. The fact that you are seeing 64 bit systems sold to
"little old ladies" says to me that 64 bit is mainstream now. It will just
take people like you another 2 or 3 years to catch up.

Tell me, why would YOU want a 32 bit OS on 64 bit hardware?

B. Smith

"Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
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> "B. Smith" <> wrote in message
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>> So---you think selling 64-bit piss poor systems to consumers is a good
>> idea ?
>> Not to geeks , mind you...
>
> Yes. Why not? If you want the machine to last more than a 3 years, 64
> bit is the way to go now. It beats the hell out of a "32 bit piss poor
> system".
>
> Nearly all machines being sold these days are 64 bit hardware. Why
> saddle them with a 32 bit OS?
>
>> It was a POS...and 64 bit is years away from mainstream .... years away.
>
> Yeah, about 2 years. The fact that you are seeing 64 bit systems sold to
> "little old ladies" says to me that 64 bit is mainstream now. It will
> just take people like you another 2 or 3 years to catch up.
>
> Tell me, why would YOU want a 32 bit OS on 64 bit hardware?
>
>


Lets see...cause it don't lock up all the time.
Read on and on about 64bit issues with 32bit apps.

My 32 bit will last 10 years.
Guarenteed.

64bit is too far ahead.
They are selling them cause they are stuck with 64 bit CPU's and cheap RAM.

Its all overstock.
That's why a 64bit 8GB RAM system comes with a 6150 in-board graphics.
Real future proof...LOL.
And only $900 bucks !

My 2 year old system smokes it.
SMOKES IT.

HP hires Yes men.

B. Smith

"B. Smith" <> wrote in message
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> "Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
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>> "B. Smith" <> wrote in message
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>>> So---you think selling 64-bit piss poor systems to consumers is a good
>>> idea ?
>>> Not to geeks , mind you...
>>
>> Yes. Why not? If you want the machine to last more than a 3 years, 64
>> bit is the way to go now. It beats the hell out of a "32 bit piss poor
>> system".
>>
>> Nearly all machines being sold these days are 64 bit hardware. Why
>> saddle them with a 32 bit OS?
>>
>>> It was a POS...and 64 bit is years away from mainstream .... years away.
>>
>> Yeah, about 2 years. The fact that you are seeing 64 bit systems sold
>> to "little old ladies" says to me that 64 bit is mainstream now. It
>> will just take people like you another 2 or 3 years to catch up.
>>
>> Tell me, why would YOU want a 32 bit OS on 64 bit hardware?
>>
>>
>
>
> Lets see...cause it don't lock up all the time.
> Read on and on about 64bit issues with 32bit apps.
>
> My 32 bit will last 10 years.
> Guarenteed.
>
> 64bit is too far ahead.
> They are selling them cause they are stuck with 64 bit CPU's and cheap
> RAM.
>
> Its all overstock.
> That's why a 64bit 8GB RAM system comes with a 6150 in-board graphics.
> Real future proof...LOL.
> And only $900 bucks !
>
> My 2 year old system smokes it.
> SMOKES IT.
>
> HP hires Yes men.


That's 64bit OS's they are stuck with, not CPU's.
And Gateway hires Yesmen too.

LOL.

The dump truck pulled into the store while I was there.

Their computers suck.

Such crap.

No wonder users hate Vista.

If I had one of those pieces of crap...I'd hate Vista too.

Spanky deMonkey, ESQ

"[signious] ^ 2" <> wrote in message
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> the number of users has nothing to do with the value and quality of a
> product, nor can it reveal its future.

Yes, the number of uses hovers around 2500. That is the total for the
planet.

The future is clear for Linux and Ubuntu. Look who they have as their
Marketing Department - Alias. Need I say more?
>
>
> But I will tell you what the future is. Everything will be based on linux,
> windows will be only a distant memory. Vista will be like a long forgotten
> nightmare.
>
>

The future is sticking your head back up your ass where it belongs as you
have no clue what is going on.
>

Claude Hopper

B. Smith wrote:
> "Claude Hopper" <> wrote in message
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>> JatCar wrote:
>>> if you want windows to USE more than 3.3-3.5 gigs or ram, yes you
>>> need to switch to 64 bit
>>>
>>> however if you have installed 4 gb on vista sp1 it will work but it
>>> will use about 3.3 of those
>>>
>>> "JBrown" <.com> wrote in message
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>>>> Is it true that to use 4GB memory you need 64 bit Vista?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,.com
>>>
>>
>> That's retarded in this day and age. There should be no RAM limits.
>
>
> My PC has 6000 GB of RAM.
> Yet I can only address 3 of 'em.
> Get a book.
> You can read, yes ?
> try calculating what 8-bit, 16-bit ,32-bit, 64-bit means.
> Then learn decimal, binary, and hexadecimal number systems.
>
> Then relax.


I'll just boot to Linux so I can use all the memory 32 or 64 bit.
I've had boolean algebra. I can do base 2, base 10 and base 16 math.

B. Smith

"Claude Hopper" <> wrote in message
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> B. Smith wrote:
>> "Claude Hopper" <> wrote in message
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>>> JatCar wrote:
>>>> if you want windows to USE more than 3.3-3.5 gigs or ram, yes you need
>>>> to switch to 64 bit
>>>>
>>>> however if you have installed 4 gb on vista sp1 it will work but it
>>>> will use about 3.3 of those
>>>>
>>>> "JBrown" <.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:.gbl...
>>>>> Is it true that to use 4GB memory you need 64 bit Vista?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,.com
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's retarded in this day and age. There should be no RAM limits.
>>
>>
>> My PC has 6000 GB of RAM.
>> Yet I can only address 3 of 'em.
>> Get a book.
>> You can read, yes ?
>> try calculating what 8-bit, 16-bit ,32-bit, 64-bit means.
>> Then learn decimal, binary, and hexadecimal number systems.
>>
>> Then relax.
>
>
> I'll just boot to Linux so I can use all the memory 32 or 64 bit.
> I've had boolean algebra. I can do base 2, base 10 and base 16 math.


Base 10 ?
LOL.
I'd hope so.
Every 1st grader has mastered base 10.
Base 2 ?
1 -1010?
LOL.
Base 16 ?
1-A?

Excellent.

Now find a use for it.

In linux, hopefully.
Losers seem drawn to linux.
You'll need a basement...and a possessive mother.