Dual XP Boot pro and home setup

BobBenson

My Wife has an XP machine with XP, 1gb RAM, Intel P4 3.4GHZ, and boots from a
pare of WDC200gb ide133 mirrored RAID, also has ATI 1950pro w 512MB memory .
.. . she has a SATA controler not being used. . . I would like to install a
SATA drive and install a clean install of XP home as dual boot with no frills
so that we can install Flight Simulator X (FSX), the Video, joystick and the
Sound drivers and thats it and close all the services and other things
running in background that are not needed by FSX.. Her current installation
ls hopelesly junked up and takes 5 minutes to boot loading virus software,
pop-up blockers, spam killers, fax modem monitoring software, etc etc etc. .
..

Can this be done? if so How?
--
Bob Benson
Retired Tech Support Guy

Timothy Daniels

"BobBenson" wrote:
> My Wife has an XP machine with XP, 1gb RAM, Intel P4 3.4GHZ,
> and boots from a pare of WDC200gb ide133 mirrored RAID, also
> has ATI 1950pro w 512MB memory .
> . . she has a SATA controler not being used. . .
> I would like to install a SATA drive and install a clean install of
> XP home as dual boot with no frills
> [.............]
>
> Can this be done? if so How?


You may have to go into the BIOS to enable the SATA controller.
Assuming that you have the installation CD for the WinXP Home,
the rest is a piece of cake. Just install the 2nd OS to a partition
of a size that you specify on the SATA HD, and let the installer
see the other installed OS during the process. The installer will
add an entry to the boot.ini file on the other "active" "partition"
(i.e. RAID'd partitions). If there are no other partitions in the
system, and the current OS calls its partition "C:", the new OS will
call its partition "D:". This MS doc should help with that:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp

If, for some reason, you insist that the new OS also calls its own
partition "C:", you can install the 2nd OS on the SATA HD with
the RAID'd HDs disconnected. You can then dual-boot the OSes
via the BIOS by putting either the RAID'd HDs or the SATA HD
at the head of the BIOS's Hard Drive Boot Order. Another way
to dual-boot, using the normal ntldr Windows NT/2K/XP load
manager, involves adding an entry to the boot.ini file in the partition
which controls booting, but to do so you must use the correct value
of "rdisk()" to refer to the SATA HD, and that is a matter for experiment.
(I am assuming that you will aske more questions, depending on
the path you want to follow.)

*TimDaniels*

Andrew E.

That first post will get you & youre pc in trouble.Never install xp on a hard
drive with others attached & running,the installation will end up on multiple
areas of all the drives,or on the wrong hd.Physically unplug all
hds,printers,etc
during the install,replug in after xp is running.

"BobBenson" wrote:

> My Wife has an XP machine with XP, 1gb RAM, Intel P4 3.4GHZ, and boots from a
> pare of WDC200gb ide133 mirrored RAID, also has ATI 1950pro w 512MB memory .
> . . she has a SATA controler not being used. . . I would like to install a
> SATA drive and install a clean install of XP home as dual boot with no frills
> so that we can install Flight Simulator X (FSX), the Video, joystick and the
> Sound drivers and thats it and close all the services and other things
> running in background that are not needed by FSX.. Her current installation
> ls hopelesly junked up and takes 5 minutes to boot loading virus software,
> pop-up blockers, spam killers, fax modem monitoring software, etc etc etc. .
> .
>
> Can this be done? if so How?
> --
> Bob Benson
> Retired Tech Support Guy

Timothy Daniels

"Andrew E." wrote:
> That first post will get you & youre pc in trouble.Never install xp on a hard
> drive with others attached & running,the installation will end up on multiple
> areas of all the drives,or on the wrong hd.Physically unplug all
> hds,printers,etc
> during the install,replug in after xp is running.


Oh, pooh. No one - certainly not I - said to have the 1st OS running.
What I wrote was to have the OS containing it *connected* so that
the installation program can see it. Your usual disinformation is
absolutely worthless, Andrew.

This website might be of help to the original poster, Bob Benson:
http://www.homerecordingconnection.c...w_story&id=151

*TimDaniels*

BobBenson

I'm Installing new SATA drive and it has been detected. . . *&^%*&^%* Windows
install ask for a floppy driver disk and seagate only provides a CD ARGGGGGGG
What planet is Redmond on. . . its been at least 15 years that floppies have
been being phased out for CD drives. . . that aside what do I do Now. . .
the Do I have to format my new dive first or will Windows xp do that during
installation? Microsoft Knowlege base article is very NOT detailed and
precise. . . assumes I know what they mean. . . which I detest since My brain
just goes into What if loops . . . thanks bob
--
Bob Benson
Retired Tech Support Guy


"Timothy Daniels" wrote:

> "BobBenson" wrote:
> > My Wife has an XP machine with XP, 1gb RAM, Intel P4 3.4GHZ,
> > and boots from a pare of WDC200gb ide133 mirrored RAID, also
> > has ATI 1950pro w 512MB memory .
> > . . she has a SATA controler not being used. . .
> > I would like to install a SATA drive and install a clean install of
> > XP home as dual boot with no frills
> > [.............]
> >
> > Can this be done? if so How?
>
>
> You may have to go into the BIOS to enable the SATA controller.
> Assuming that you have the installation CD for the WinXP Home,
> the rest is a piece of cake. Just install the 2nd OS to a partition
> of a size that you specify on the SATA HD, and let the installer
> see the other installed OS during the process. The installer will
> add an entry to the boot.ini file on the other "active" "partition"
> (i.e. RAID'd partitions). If there are no other partitions in the
> system, and the current OS calls its partition "C:", the new OS will
> call its partition "D:". This MS doc should help with that:
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp
>
> If, for some reason, you insist that the new OS also calls its own
> partition "C:", you can install the 2nd OS on the SATA HD with
> the RAID'd HDs disconnected. You can then dual-boot the OSes
> via the BIOS by putting either the RAID'd HDs or the SATA HD
> at the head of the BIOS's Hard Drive Boot Order. Another way
> to dual-boot, using the normal ntldr Windows NT/2K/XP load
> manager, involves adding an entry to the boot.ini file in the partition
> which controls booting, but to do so you must use the correct value
> of "rdisk()" to refer to the SATA HD, and that is a matter for experiment.
> (I am assuming that you will aske more questions, depending on
> the path you want to follow.)
>
> *TimDaniels*
>
>

John John

15 years ago??? 15 years ago the El Torito standard wasn't yet
developed and CD's weren't yet bootable! Copy the drivers from the CD
to a floppy diskette.

John

BobBenson wrote:

> I'm Installing new SATA drive and it has been detected. . . *&^%*&^%* Windows
> install ask for a floppy driver disk and seagate only provides a CD ARGGGGGGG
> What planet is Redmond on. . . its been at least 15 years that floppies have
> been being phased out for CD drives. . . that aside what do I do Now. . .
> the Do I have to format my new dive first or will Windows xp do that during
> installation? Microsoft Knowlege base article is very NOT detailed and
> precise. . . assumes I know what they mean. . . which I detest since My brain
> just goes into What if loops . . . thanks bob

BobBenson

OK I finally found the make disk program on the CD . . . It was not in their
menu just there . . . . Now to my original question does windows create a
partision during install or do I have to first partition new drive? . . .
also when should I get the screen that allows me to set up a dual boot. . .
Install is acting like it is replacing my XP Pro with home. . . MS article
vague to point of worry!

--
Bob Benson
Retired Tech Support Guy


"John John" wrote:

> 15 years ago??? 15 years ago the El Torito standard wasn't yet
> developed and CD's weren't yet bootable! Copy the drivers from the CD
> to a floppy diskette.
>
> John
>
> BobBenson wrote:
>
> > I'm Installing new SATA drive and it has been detected. . . *&^%*&^%* Windows
> > install ask for a floppy driver disk and seagate only provides a CD ARGGGGGGG
> > What planet is Redmond on. . . its been at least 15 years that floppies have
> > been being phased out for CD drives. . . that aside what do I do Now. . .
> > the Do I have to format my new dive first or will Windows xp do that during
> > installation? Microsoft Knowlege base article is very NOT detailed and
> > precise. . . assumes I know what they mean. . . which I detest since My brain
> > just goes into What if loops . . . thanks bob
>

John John

You will be offered the opportunity to do partitioning work when you run
the Windows Setup. After you install the End User License Agreement you
will be shown a list of disks and partitions on your computer and given
the option do do disk work.

Remember to reboot the computer and restart the Windows Setup after you
delete or create partitions, if you do not reboot Windows Setup may
enumerate your drive letters in an unexpected manner.

Keep in mind that anything can happen when you install an operating
system! Be it by user error or by software glitches there is always a
risk of things going terribly bad and of losing *all* your files! Take
proper precautions and have a disaster recovery plan in case things go
to the dogs!

John

BobBenson wrote:

> OK I finally found the make disk program on the CD . . . It was not in their
> menu just there . . . . Now to my original question does windows create a
> partision during install or do I have to first partition new drive? . . .
> also when should I get the screen that allows me to set up a dual boot. . .
> Install is acting like it is replacing my XP Pro with home. . . MS article
> vague to point of worry!
>

BobBenson

John
Thanks a Million. . . My wife's new SATA drive is installed with a very
minimal XP HOME install (had . . . it is running very fast and very smooth. .
.. Just finished installing her FSX (Flight Sinulator X) and its 250MB SP-1
on it and it loads 3-4 times faster than it does on the XP Pro boot and it
runs much smoother --higher frame rate-- just what she wanted. . . I'm
defragging the install now and will be seeing if there are any unnessary
services and start-up programs that I can get rid of to make it even better.
.. . You and Timothy were tuns of help. . . thanks again

--
Bob Benson
Retired Tech Support Guy


"John John" wrote:

> You will be offered the opportunity to do partitioning work when you run
> the Windows Setup. After you install the End User License Agreement you
> will be shown a list of disks and partitions on your computer and given
> the option do do disk work.
>
> Remember to reboot the computer and restart the Windows Setup after you
> delete or create partitions, if you do not reboot Windows Setup may
> enumerate your drive letters in an unexpected manner.
>
> Keep in mind that anything can happen when you install an operating
> system! Be it by user error or by software glitches there is always a
> risk of things going terribly bad and of losing *all* your files! Take
> proper precautions and have a disaster recovery plan in case things go
> to the dogs!
>
> John
>
> BobBenson wrote:
>
> > OK I finally found the make disk program on the CD . . . It was not in their
> > menu just there . . . . Now to my original question does windows create a
> > partision during install or do I have to first partition new drive? . . .
> > also when should I get the screen that allows me to set up a dual boot. . .
> > Install is acting like it is replacing my XP Pro with home. . . MS article
> > vague to point of worry!
> >
>

John John

Glad to see that you got it running like you wanted, thanks for the
follow-up.

John

BobBenson wrote:

> John
> Thanks a Million. . . My wife's new SATA drive is installed with a very
> minimal XP HOME install (had . . . it is running very fast and very smooth. .
> . Just finished installing her FSX (Flight Sinulator X) and its 250MB SP-1
> on it and it loads 3-4 times faster than it does on the XP Pro boot and it
> runs much smoother --higher frame rate-- just what she wanted. . . I'm
> defragging the install now and will be seeing if there are any unnessary
> services and start-up programs that I can get rid of to make it even better.
> . . You and Timothy were tuns of help. . . thanks again
>