Unknown

The thousands of problems I refer to are those you read on these newsgroups.
I would guess at least 90% of the problems talked about on these newsgroups
are Virus program related. Many, many more problems are caused by virus
programs than
prevented by them.
Go over to the Outlook Express groups and see the problems there.
Also take note of how many are uninstalling their virus programs.
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:j571k31s0vah00c2se8sav3t23n4gm13gt@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:29:16 GMT, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
> wrote:
>
>> On the contrary; That is good advice.
>
>
> I couldn't disagree more.
>
>
>> HOWEVER, anyone not using antivirus
>> programs
>> must NOT open unknown mail, click on unknown URLs and download trash.
>
>
> *That* however is good advice, *even* if you use an antivirus program.
>
>
>> I too do NOT use ANY virus programs, never had a virus,
>
>
> Good for you. In my view that's like saying "I never use a seatbelt
> and I've never been hurt in an automobile accident." Consider yourself
> lucky that you've gotten away with it so far. But your luck may not
> last forever.
>
> I have always used an antivirus program, and I too have never had a
> virus. Only once in the all the years I've used antivirus programs has
> one even warned me about a potential virus threat, but I was glad I
> had it installed that day.
>
>
>> and most importantly
>> have not suffered any of the thousands of problems caused by the
>> antivirus
>> programs.
>
>
> That's an *enormous* overstatement. Even the worst antivirus
> programs--Norton and McAfee--don't cause "thousands of problems." The
> one I use now--Avast!--has never caused me a single problem.
>
>
>
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> newsho0k3d7s69k82i5ipe32929b96ka83j4p@4ax.com...
>> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:04:21 -0500, "Frank" <bbunny@bqik.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Magnum" <Magnum@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:65A44696-7D2B-4721-B462-2B668E3EC87C@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have been told that Avast, AVG or Antivir are good free anti virus
>> >> > programmes. Which do members think is the best option. They all
>> >> > happen
>> >> > to
>> >> > be free But I am told that they are all very good and compare
>> >> > favourably
>> >> > with
>> >> > the brand leaders. By the way I am quite happy to buy a programme
>> >> > and
>> >> > would
>> >> > welcome suggestions.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have been running no AV for 12 or more years.
>> >> No viruses, no spyware,
>> >> and no malware has entered any of my PCs
>> >
>> >
>> > That's fine for you. But the inference your post makes is that others
>> > should do what you do. That's irresponsible advice.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake, MVP

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:50 -0600, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
wrote:

> The thousands of problems I refer to are those you read on these newsgroups.
> I would guess at least 90% of the problems talked about on these newsgroups
> are Virus program related.


That's *your* guess. It certainly isn't mine.


> Many, many more problems are caused by virus
> programs than
> prevented by them.


There *are* problems that are caused by anti-virus programs. However
the enormous majority of those problems are caused by just two
anti-virus programs--Norton and McAfee. Don't paint them all wt the
same brush. It's appropriate to recommend ant Norton and McAfee; it's
*not* appropriate to recommend against *all* anti-virus programs.




> Go over to the Outlook Express groups and see the problems there.
> Also take note of how many are uninstalling their virus programs.
> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:j571k31s0vah00c2se8sav3t23n4gm13gt@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:29:16 GMT, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On the contrary; That is good advice.
> >
> >
> > I couldn't disagree more.
> >
> >
> >> HOWEVER, anyone not using antivirus
> >> programs
> >> must NOT open unknown mail, click on unknown URLs and download trash.
> >
> >
> > *That* however is good advice, *even* if you use an antivirus program.
> >
> >
> >> I too do NOT use ANY virus programs, never had a virus,
> >
> >
> > Good for you. In my view that's like saying "I never use a seatbelt
> > and I've never been hurt in an automobile accident." Consider yourself
> > lucky that you've gotten away with it so far. But your luck may not
> > last forever.
> >
> > I have always used an antivirus program, and I too have never had a
> > virus. Only once in the all the years I've used antivirus programs has
> > one even warned me about a potential virus threat, but I was glad I
> > had it installed that day.
> >
> >
> >> and most importantly
> >> have not suffered any of the thousands of problems caused by the
> >> antivirus
> >> programs.
> >
> >
> > That's an *enormous* overstatement. Even the worst antivirus
> > programs--Norton and McAfee--don't cause "thousands of problems." The
> > one I use now--Avast!--has never caused me a single problem.
> >
> >
> >
> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> >> newsho0k3d7s69k82i5ipe32929b96ka83j4p@4ax.com...
> >> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:04:21 -0500, "Frank" <bbunny@bqik.net> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Magnum" <Magnum@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:65A44696-7D2B-4721-B462-2B668E3EC87C@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have been told that Avast, AVG or Antivir are good free anti virus
> >> >> > programmes. Which do members think is the best option. They all
> >> >> > happen
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > be free But I am told that they are all very good and compare
> >> >> > favourably
> >> >> > with
> >> >> > the brand leaders. By the way I am quite happy to buy a programme
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > would
> >> >> > welcome suggestions.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been running no AV for 12 or more years.
> >> >> No viruses, no spyware,
> >> >> and no malware has entered any of my PCs
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > That's fine for you. But the inference your post makes is that others
> >> > should do what you do. That's irresponsible advice.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
> >>
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Unknown

Yes; my guess. Don't want to spend the time counting.
"Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:8pk3k35dnh4j018cng32u4h5rn7lvdq1q2@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:21:50 -0600, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
> wrote:
>
>> The thousands of problems I refer to are those you read on these
>> newsgroups.
>> I would guess at least 90% of the problems talked about on these
>> newsgroups
>> are Virus program related.
>
>
> That's *your* guess. It certainly isn't mine.
>
>
>> Many, many more problems are caused by virus
>> programs than
>> prevented by them.
>
>
> There *are* problems that are caused by anti-virus programs. However
> the enormous majority of those problems are caused by just two
> anti-virus programs--Norton and McAfee. Don't paint them all wt the
> same brush. It's appropriate to recommend ant Norton and McAfee; it's
> *not* appropriate to recommend against *all* anti-virus programs.
>
>
>
>
>> Go over to the Outlook Express groups and see the problems there.
>> Also take note of how many are uninstalling their virus programs.
>> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> news:j571k31s0vah00c2se8sav3t23n4gm13gt@4ax.com...
>> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:29:16 GMT, "Unknown" <unknown@unknown.kom>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> On the contrary; That is good advice.
>> >
>> >
>> > I couldn't disagree more.
>> >
>> >
>> >> HOWEVER, anyone not using antivirus
>> >> programs
>> >> must NOT open unknown mail, click on unknown URLs and download trash.
>> >
>> >
>> > *That* however is good advice, *even* if you use an antivirus program.
>> >
>> >
>> >> I too do NOT use ANY virus programs, never had a virus,
>> >
>> >
>> > Good for you. In my view that's like saying "I never use a seatbelt
>> > and I've never been hurt in an automobile accident." Consider yourself
>> > lucky that you've gotten away with it so far. But your luck may not
>> > last forever.
>> >
>> > I have always used an antivirus program, and I too have never had a
>> > virus. Only once in the all the years I've used antivirus programs has
>> > one even warned me about a potential virus threat, but I was glad I
>> > had it installed that day.
>> >
>> >
>> >> and most importantly
>> >> have not suffered any of the thousands of problems caused by the
>> >> antivirus
>> >> programs.
>> >
>> >
>> > That's an *enormous* overstatement. Even the worst antivirus
>> > programs--Norton and McAfee--don't cause "thousands of problems." The
>> > one I use now--Avast!--has never caused me a single problem.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@this.is.am.invalid.domain> wrote in message
>> >> newsho0k3d7s69k82i5ipe32929b96ka83j4p@4ax.com...
>> >> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 07:04:21 -0500, "Frank" <bbunny@bqik.net> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Magnum" <Magnum@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:65A44696-7D2B-4721-B462-2B668E3EC87C@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I have been told that Avast, AVG or Antivir are good free anti
>> >> >> >virus
>> >> >> > programmes. Which do members think is the best option. They all
>> >> >> > happen
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > be free But I am told that they are all very good and compare
>> >> >> > favourably
>> >> >> > with
>> >> >> > the brand leaders. By the way I am quite happy to buy a
>> >> >> > programme
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > would
>> >> >> > welcome suggestions.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have been running no AV for 12 or more years.
>> >> >> No viruses, no spyware,
>> >> >> and no malware has entered any of my PCs
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > That's fine for you. But the inference your post makes is that
>> >> > others
>> >> > should do what you do. That's irresponsible advice.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> >> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>>
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Plato

Frank wrote:
>
> >I have been told that Avast, AVG or Antivir are good free anti virus
> > programmes. Which do members think is the best option. They all happen
> > to
> > be free But I am told that they are all very good and compare favourably
> > with
> > the brand leaders. By the way I am quite happy to buy a programme and
> > would
> > welcome suggestions.
>
> I have been running no AV for 12 or more years.
> No viruses, no spyware,
> and no malware has entered any of my PCs

How do you know that for sure unless you ran an anti-virus or an
anti-spyware app?










--
http://www.bootdisk.com/

windmap

Phisherman wrote:
> On 15 Nov 2007 21:39:03 -0600, Plato <|@|.|> wrote:
>
>> =?Utf-8?B?TWFnbnVt?= wrote:
>>> I have been told that Avast, AVG or Antivir are good free anti virus
>>> programmes. Which do members think is the best option. They all happen to
>>> be free But I am told that they are all very good and compare favourably with
>>> the brand leaders. By the way I am quite happy to buy a programme and would
>>> welcome suggestions.
>> Some of them are shareware. I cant remember which ones are "free" or
>> which ones are shareware.
>
>
> I know that AVG and Avast! have absolutely free versions for
> non-business use. You have to hunt a little on their site, scroll all
> the way down, etc to find it. I don't recall "shareware" versions,
> but there are versions that can be purchased.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,12...s/article.html

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,130869/article.html

I believe above links would help you decide which one is best.

soon-to-retire-teacher

Sorry for butting in here...

My computer crashed (had OneCare on it). New computer did not have it so
downloaded it and did a restart. I kept seeing a dialog: "Urgent Connect to
finish installation" with a Retry button. It won't work. (I'm always
connected.) After searching Microsoft's OneCare site I downloaded a fixit
file which didn't work. The program shows as installed because it appears in
my Start>Programs list. I'm w/o antivirus security presently and Microsoft's
help-site is sending me 'round & 'round in circles. If I try to launch Once
by Start>Program>OneCare, it takes me back to the dialog I describe above
("Urgent Connect to finish installation...) Has anyone has similar
experience with this... Oh!, when the previously mention dialog opens, in
the upper LH corner is reads: TVBOX Satus: At Risk Hope you can help &
THANKS!

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:

> I've been running Windows OneCare on three different
> computers for over two years now. No viruses, no spyware,
> and no malware has entered any of my PCs using OneCare.
>
> Windows OneCare:
> http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/default.htm
>
> Learn about Windows Live OneCare:
> http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-...fo/default.htm
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Magnum" wrote:
>
> I have been told that Avast, AVG or Antivir are good free anti virus
> programmes. Which do members think is the best option. They all happen to
> be free But I am told that they are all very good and compare favourably with
> the brand leaders. By the way I am quite happy to buy a programme and would
> welcome suggestions.

soon-to-retire-teacher

I am 'bout ready to try AVG if I can't get OneCare to install on my new
computer.

"Plato" wrote:

> Frank wrote:
> >
> > >I have been told that Avast, AVG or Antivir are good free anti virus
> > > programmes. Which do members think is the best option. They all happen
> > > to
> > > be free But I am told that they are all very good and compare favourably
> > > with
> > > the brand leaders. By the way I am quite happy to buy a programme and
> > > would
> > > welcome suggestions.
> >
> > I have been running no AV for 12 or more years.
> > No viruses, no spyware,
> > and no malware has entered any of my PCs
>
> How do you know that for sure unless you ran an anti-virus or an
> anti-spyware app?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> http://www.bootdisk.com/
>
>
>

Robert

On Nov 13, 11:28 am, Magnum <Mag...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> I have been told that Avast, AVG or Antivir are good free anti virus
> programmes. Which do members think is the best option. They all happen to
> be free But I am told that they are all very good and compare favourably with
> the brand leaders. By the way I am quite happy to buy a programme and would
> welcome suggestions.

At present I use AVG along with A-squared and Spybot (for malware
removal)with a Comodo firewall all of which are free. I use to have
Norton and glad I got rid of it, it caused nothing but problems and is
a resource hog.

Robert

Daave

soon-to-retire-teacher wrote:
> Sorry for butting in here...
>
> My computer crashed (had OneCare on it). New computer did not have
> it so downloaded it and did a restart. I kept seeing a dialog:
> "Urgent Connect to finish installation" with a Retry button. It
> won't work. (I'm always connected.) After searching Microsoft's
> OneCare site I downloaded a fixit file which didn't work. The
> program shows as installed because it appears in my Start>Programs
> list. I'm w/o antivirus security presently and Microsoft's help-site
> is sending me 'round & 'round in circles. If I try to launch Once
> by Start>Program>OneCare, it takes me back to the dialog I describe
> above ("Urgent Connect to finish installation...) Has anyone has
> similar
> experience with this... Oh!, when the previously mention dialog
> opens, in
> the upper LH corner is reads: TVBOX Satus: At Risk Hope you can
> help & THANKS!

Was this fixit file called FixCompleteInst.exe by any chance?

In addition to running that file, you also need to ensure that IE is
your default browser and remove any changed proxy settings. You may also
need to repair .NET.

See "You cannot complete the installation of Windows Live OneCare":

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934764