Trevor Moseley

"Bruce Chambers" wrote:

> bossman3979 wrote:
> > After replacing XP will not boot , keeps restarting.. can not get into
> > windows to reactivate.
> > Thanks
>
>
> Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
> installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore *not*
> transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless
> the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE
> controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP
> installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair
> (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:
>
> How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341
>
> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>
> The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
> licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
> You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
> you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
> Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
> foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
> is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
> old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
> "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
> reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
> than the Win9x group.
>
> As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
> important data before starting.
>
> This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
> Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
> 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
> likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
> been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
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>
> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>

But the PC is a 5 year old Advent OEM PC.
I do not have XP installation CD, only Product Recovery CD-ROM, so can not
re-install.
PC will not let me access network because it's not activated.
Microsoft will not allow me to use technical support because it's an OEM
version.
Surely it's not considered illegal to fix your own PC!!!!!

Richard in AZ

"Trevor Moseley" <Trevor Moseley@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5DFD265F-C310-45D4-B665-452F879CB441@microsoft.com...
>
>
> "Bruce Chambers" wrote:
>
>> bossman3979 wrote:
>> > After replacing XP will not boot , keeps restarting.. can not get into
>> > windows to reactivate.
>> > Thanks
>>
>>
>> Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
>> installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore *not*
>> transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless
>> the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE
>> controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP
>> installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair
>> (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:
>>
>> How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341
>>
>> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>>
>> The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
>> licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
>> You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
>> you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
>> Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
>> foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
>> is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
>> old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
>> "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
>> reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
>> than the Win9x group.
>>
>> As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
>> important data before starting.
>>
>> This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
>> Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
>> 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
>> likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
>> been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Chambers
>>
>> Help us help you:
>> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>> They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin
>>
>
> But the PC is a 5 year old Advent OEM PC.
> I do not have XP installation CD, only Product Recovery CD-ROM, so can not
> re-install.
> PC will not let me access network because it's not activated.
> Microsoft will not allow me to use technical support because it's an OEM
> version.
> Surely it's not considered illegal to fix your own PC!!!!!

No it is not illegal to fix your own PC, but when you changed the motherboard, you lost the right to
use the Advent OEM software. The lower price on OEM systems is due to the manufacturer assuming
support, not Microsoft. Advent OEM software would have worked if you had bought an exact
replacement for the original motherboard. Now you have a "new machine" to that software and you are
going to have to buy a new OEM Windows package. I hope you got a disk with the new motherboard
that has the drivers for that board.

Bruce Chambers

Trevor Moseley wrote:
>
>
>
> But the PC is a 5 year old Advent OEM PC.
> I do not have XP installation CD, only Product Recovery CD-ROM, so can not
> re-install.
> PC will not let me access network because it's not activated.
> Microsoft will not allow me to use technical support because it's an OEM
> version.
> Surely it's not considered illegal to fix your own PC!!!!!
>

It's not a matter of "legality," in this case. It's a purely technical
issue brought about by the OEM's choosing to provide only a BIOS-locked
Recovery CD. Had you replaced the motherboard with an identical model
it would have worked.


--

Bruce Chambers

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