Access is denied error

sawyer4444

Hello,

This is question probably has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out.

For backup purposes I copy all of a partion to a partition on a different
hard drive. I use following xcopy command

"xcopy E:\*.* I:\*.* /EXCLUDE:C:\Copy_From_CDEF_to_GHIJ\ExcludeE.txt
/s/e/c/h/r/k/y/d/g/o"

I've been doing this for years with no problems.

Both the source and target partions are NTFS partitions. I run the batch
files as a user with full administrator permissions.

My target partition was getting short on space, so I compressed it.

Now when I run the batch file, I get "Access Is Denied" error messages.
I've tried giving all the directories full access rights, etc., with no
change. I can't even delete the directories - some of them give me the
"access is denied" error whether I'm trying to delete from a command prompt
or from inside windows explorer.

Help please.


Thanks,

Tom

TaurArian

1. This is the Windows Update newsgroup.
2. You did not state what operating system you are using.
3. Perhaps post to the Vista Newsgroups
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...s/default.mspx
of
4. Perhaps post to the Windows XP Newsgroups
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ewsgroups.mspx
5. Find a better way to back up
Acronis for all your backup and data recovery needs - easy to use
http://www.acronis.com.sg/
or
Paragon - for a list of products see:
http://www.paragon-software.com/products.htm
--

TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2008 - Update Services
http://taurarian.mvps.org
======================================
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Computer Maintenance: Diskeeper / Raxco


"sawyer4444" <sawyer4444@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8B15C57E-2D01-4A3E-B06B-E3C5E01988C9@microsoft.com...
| Hello,
|
| This is question probably has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out.
|
| For backup purposes I copy all of a partion to a partition on a different
| hard drive. I use following xcopy command
|
| "xcopy E:\*.* I:\*.* /EXCLUDE:C:\Copy_From_CDEF_to_GHIJ\ExcludeE.txt
| /s/e/c/h/r/k/y/d/g/o"
|
| I've been doing this for years with no problems.
|
| Both the source and target partions are NTFS partitions. I run the batch
| files as a user with full administrator permissions.
|
| My target partition was getting short on space, so I compressed it.
|
| Now when I run the batch file, I get "Access Is Denied" error messages.
| I've tried giving all the directories full access rights, etc., with no
| change. I can't even delete the directories - some of them give me the
| "access is denied" error whether I'm trying to delete from a command prompt
| or from inside windows explorer.
|
| Help please.
|
|
| Thanks,
|
| Tom

TaurArian

My apologies for stating it was the Windows Update Newsgroup - I'm in the wrong newsgroup.
Perhaps just read No. 5
--

TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2008 - Update Services
http://taurarian.mvps.org
======================================
How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
Computer Maintenance: Acronis / Diskeeper / Paragon / Raxco


"TaurArian" <taurarianREMOVECAPS@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OZUGnKiwIHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| 1. This is the Windows Update newsgroup.
| 2. You did not state what operating system you are using.
| 3. Perhaps post to the Vista Newsgroups
| http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...s/default.mspx
| of
| 4. Perhaps post to the Windows XP Newsgroups
| http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ewsgroups.mspx
| 5. Find a better way to back up
| Acronis for all your backup and data recovery needs - easy to use
| http://www.acronis.com.sg/
| or
| Paragon - for a list of products see:
| http://www.paragon-software.com/products.htm
| --
|
| TaurArian [MVP] 2005-2008 - Update Services
| http://taurarian.mvps.org
| ======================================
| How to ask a question: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555375
| Computer Maintenance: Diskeeper / Raxco
|
|
| "sawyer4444" <sawyer4444@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
| news:8B15C57E-2D01-4A3E-B06B-E3C5E01988C9@microsoft.com...
|| Hello,
||
|| This is question probably has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out.
||
|| For backup purposes I copy all of a partion to a partition on a different
|| hard drive. I use following xcopy command
||
|| "xcopy E:\*.* I:\*.* /EXCLUDE:C:\Copy_From_CDEF_to_GHIJ\ExcludeE.txt
|| /s/e/c/h/r/k/y/d/g/o"
||
|| I've been doing this for years with no problems.
||
|| Both the source and target partions are NTFS partitions. I run the batch
|| files as a user with full administrator permissions.
||
|| My target partition was getting short on space, so I compressed it.
||
|| Now when I run the batch file, I get "Access Is Denied" error messages.
|| I've tried giving all the directories full access rights, etc., with no
|| change. I can't even delete the directories - some of them give me the
|| "access is denied" error whether I'm trying to delete from a command prompt
|| or from inside windows explorer.
||
|| Help please.
||
||
|| Thanks,
||
|| Tom
|
|

Bob I

And if you remove the compression on the target drive, what happens?

sawyer4444 wrote:

> Hello,
>
> This is question probably has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out.
>
> For backup purposes I copy all of a partion to a partition on a different
> hard drive. I use following xcopy command
>
> "xcopy E:\*.* I:\*.* /EXCLUDE:C:\Copy_From_CDEF_to_GHIJ\ExcludeE.txt
> /s/e/c/h/r/k/y/d/g/o"
>
> I've been doing this for years with no problems.
>
> Both the source and target partions are NTFS partitions. I run the batch
> files as a user with full administrator permissions.
>
> My target partition was getting short on space, so I compressed it.
>
> Now when I run the batch file, I get "Access Is Denied" error messages.
> I've tried giving all the directories full access rights, etc., with no
> change. I can't even delete the directories - some of them give me the
> "access is denied" error whether I'm trying to delete from a command prompt
> or from inside windows explorer.
>
> Help please.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom

sawyer4444

Bob,

Thanks - I removed the compression. I still had the problem. But I have a
little more information and my solution.

I used windows explorer and was able to delete all but three sub-directories
under the directory I:\Program Files. (I'm running Windows XP SP3. Drive I
:\ is where I copied a partition, E:\, that contains my test installation of
Vista.) All three directories have a sub directory, ..../en-us that seemed
to be causing the problem.

The sub directories ..../en-us were marked with the attribute "read only" -
and I couldn't remove it. Using windows explorer->properties I unchecked the
read only box, clicked on apply, and it appeared to be removed. If I exited
and then re-entered properties, the read-only attribute was set again.

I then clicked on the windows explorer -> security tab -> advanced button
and changed the owner to be the administrator account I was logged in as.
(The owner had been set to
"S-1-5-80-956008885-3418522649-1831038044-1853292631-2271478464" - don't ask
me why.) I made sure my account had full control of the directories. I also
deleted the "S-1-5..." user from the permision list. I changed the read only
attribute again, exited and re-entered properties, and the read only
attribute was back! I went back and forth like this several times and never
did get windows explorer to remove the read only attribute.

I then went to a command prompt and ran the attrib command with the -R
parameter and VOILA, the read only attribute was gone! (I had used the
attrib command yesterday and it wouldn't remove the read only attribute. I
suspect having the "S-1-5..." user as the owner in the permissions list was
causing some of the problem.

Anyway, thanks,

Tom


"Bob I" wrote:

> And if you remove the compression on the target drive, what happens?
>
> sawyer4444 wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > This is question probably has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out.
> >
> > For backup purposes I copy all of a partion to a partition on a different
> > hard drive. I use following xcopy command
> >
> > "xcopy E:\*.* I:\*.* /EXCLUDE:C:\Copy_From_CDEF_to_GHIJ\ExcludeE.txt
> > /s/e/c/h/r/k/y/d/g/o"
> >
> > I've been doing this for years with no problems.
> >
> > Both the source and target partions are NTFS partitions. I run the batch
> > files as a user with full administrator permissions.
> >
> > My target partition was getting short on space, so I compressed it.
> >
> > Now when I run the batch file, I get "Access Is Denied" error messages.
> > I've tried giving all the directories full access rights, etc., with no
> > change. I can't even delete the directories - some of them give me the
> > "access is denied" error whether I'm trying to delete from a command prompt
> > or from inside windows explorer.
> >
> > Help please.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
>
>

Bob I

glad to hear you uncovered the cause, as you discovered, you may only
SET/UNSET readonly on folders through the command line. The GUI "folder
properties" "read-only" box is not used for that purpose nor does it
actually indicate anything about the properties of of the folder. It's
only purpose in life is to allow a user to SET/UNSET "read-only" on the
files contained in the folder.

sawyer4444 wrote:

> Bob,
>
> Thanks - I removed the compression. I still had the problem. But I have a
> little more information and my solution.
>
> I used windows explorer and was able to delete all but three sub-directories
> under the directory I:\Program Files. (I'm running Windows XP SP3. Drive I
> :\ is where I copied a partition, E:\, that contains my test installation of
> Vista.) All three directories have a sub directory, ..../en-us that seemed
> to be causing the problem.
>
> The sub directories ..../en-us were marked with the attribute "read only" -
> and I couldn't remove it. Using windows explorer->properties I unchecked the
> read only box, clicked on apply, and it appeared to be removed. If I exited
> and then re-entered properties, the read-only attribute was set again.
>
> I then clicked on the windows explorer -> security tab -> advanced button
> and changed the owner to be the administrator account I was logged in as.
> (The owner had been set to
> "S-1-5-80-956008885-3418522649-1831038044-1853292631-2271478464" - don't ask
> me why.) I made sure my account had full control of the directories. I also
> deleted the "S-1-5..." user from the permision list. I changed the read only
> attribute again, exited and re-entered properties, and the read only
> attribute was back! I went back and forth like this several times and never
> did get windows explorer to remove the read only attribute.
>
> I then went to a command prompt and ran the attrib command with the -R
> parameter and VOILA, the read only attribute was gone! (I had used the
> attrib command yesterday and it wouldn't remove the read only attribute. I
> suspect having the "S-1-5..." user as the owner in the permissions list was
> causing some of the problem.
>
> Anyway, thanks,
>
> Tom
>
>
> "Bob I" wrote:
>
>
>>And if you remove the compression on the target drive, what happens?
>>
>>sawyer4444 wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>This is question probably has a simple answer, but I can't figure it out.
>>>
>>>For backup purposes I copy all of a partion to a partition on a different
>>>hard drive. I use following xcopy command
>>>
>>>"xcopy E:\*.* I:\*.* /EXCLUDE:C:\Copy_From_CDEF_to_GHIJ\ExcludeE.txt
>>>/s/e/c/h/r/k/y/d/g/o"
>>>
>>>I've been doing this for years with no problems.
>>>
>>>Both the source and target partions are NTFS partitions. I run the batch
>>>files as a user with full administrator permissions.
>>>
>>>My target partition was getting short on space, so I compressed it.
>>>
>>>Now when I run the batch file, I get "Access Is Denied" error messages.
>>>I've tried giving all the directories full access rights, etc., with no
>>>change. I can't even delete the directories - some of them give me the
>>>"access is denied" error whether I'm trying to delete from a command prompt
>>>or from inside windows explorer.
>>>
>>>Help please.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Tom
>>
>>