Processes won't close

Fenley Crunchwhistle

Many applications when closed normally still appear in Task Manager.
Some exhibit this behavior all the time, some only sometimes.
For example, SysInternals Process Explorer and Vegas Pro 8 seem to never
close properly and show an additional process in Process Explorer with every
launch/exit.
This is not application-specific behavior.
I have XP 2002 SP3.
Norton 360 with latest signatures finds no viruses or spyware.
Windows Update finds no updates for my computer.
Thanks

Bob I

If you ignore this immediate check and observe later, have they gone away?

Fenley Crunchwhistle wrote:
> Many applications when closed normally still appear in Task Manager.
> Some exhibit this behavior all the time, some only sometimes.
> For example, SysInternals Process Explorer and Vegas Pro 8 seem to never
> close properly and show an additional process in Process Explorer with every
> launch/exit.
> This is not application-specific behavior.
> I have XP 2002 SP3.
> Norton 360 with latest signatures finds no viruses or spyware.
> Windows Update finds no updates for my computer.
> Thanks
>

db.·.. >

sometimes if the cpu
is overwhelmingly
busy, it cannot execute
commands, which is
"not" a good thing.

however, you can
control how busy
your computer should
be.

my suggestion is to
begin with what should
be loaded when windows
initializes, then be sure
you conduct routine
system maintenances
like with:



--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>


"Fenley Crunchwhistle" <Fenley > wrote in
message news:...
> Many applications when closed normally still appear in Task Manager.
> Some exhibit this behavior all the time, some only sometimes.
> For example, SysInternals Process Explorer and Vegas Pro 8 seem to never
> close properly and show an additional process in Process Explorer with every
> launch/exit.
> This is not application-specific behavior.
> I have XP 2002 SP3.
> Norton 360 with latest signatures finds no viruses or spyware.
> Windows Update finds no updates for my computer.
> Thanks
>

Fenley Crunchwhistle

No. They stick around indefinitely. With some applications, trying to load
them a second time just does nothing. The application doesn't become visible
and a second instance doesn't appear in Task Manager or Process Explorer.
With other applications the instances shown in Task Manager or Process
Explorer just pile up as you load and then "close" them...

"Bob I" wrote:

> If you ignore this immediate check and observe later, have they gone away?
>
> Fenley Crunchwhistle wrote:
> > Many applications when closed normally still appear in Task Manager.
> > Some exhibit this behavior all the time, some only sometimes.
> > For example, SysInternals Process Explorer and Vegas Pro 8 seem to never
> > close properly and show an additional process in Process Explorer with every
> > launch/exit.
> > This is not application-specific behavior.
> > I have XP 2002 SP3.
> > Norton 360 with latest signatures finds no viruses or spyware.
> > Windows Update finds no updates for my computer.
> > Thanks
> >
>
>

Fenley Crunchwhistle

When this anamoly occurs the CPU is typically at 10-12% (Sytem Idle process:
90-92%).

"db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:

> sometimes if the cpu
> is overwhelmingly
> busy, it cannot execute
> commands, which is
> "not" a good thing.
>
> however, you can
> control how busy
> your computer should
> be.
>
> my suggestion is to
> begin with what should
> be loaded when windows
> initializes, then be sure
> you conduct routine
> system maintenances
> like with:
>
>
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
>
> "Fenley Crunchwhistle" <Fenley > wrote in
> message news:...
> > Many applications when closed normally still appear in Task Manager.
> > Some exhibit this behavior all the time, some only sometimes.
> > For example, SysInternals Process Explorer and Vegas Pro 8 seem to never
> > close properly and show an additional process in Process Explorer with every
> > launch/exit.
> > This is not application-specific behavior.
> > I have XP 2002 SP3.
> > Norton 360 with latest signatures finds no viruses or spyware.
> > Windows Update finds no updates for my computer.
> > Thanks
> >
>
>

db.·.. >

well, even if the cpu
show that small amount,
the dialog you are using
to view that data is also
a process and may not
likely be reporting the
correct amount, until
the cpu is free'd up.

also, sometimes if virtual
memory is set to auto
and it is trying to
increase the size due
to more memory
requirement then that
process can stall the
system.

my suggestion is to
set the virtual mem
to a custom size of
initial=2 and max=?.

the recommended
max amount is provided
by windows on the
lower part of the
v.m. dialog window.

next you may also
want to download
and install this:



it will clear out the
memory of any processes
that are orphaned in the
memory and stalling.

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>



"Fenley Crunchwhistle" <> wrote in
message news:...
> When this anamoly occurs the CPU is typically at 10-12% (Sytem Idle process:
> 90-92%).
>
> "db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:
>
>> sometimes if the cpu
>> is overwhelmingly
>> busy, it cannot execute
>> commands, which is
>> "not" a good thing.
>>
>> however, you can
>> control how busy
>> your computer should
>> be.
>>
>> my suggestion is to
>> begin with what should
>> be loaded when windows
>> initializes, then be sure
>> you conduct routine
>> system maintenances
>> like with:
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>
>>
>> "Fenley Crunchwhistle" <Fenley > wrote
>> in
>> message news:...
>> > Many applications when closed normally still appear in Task Manager.
>> > Some exhibit this behavior all the time, some only sometimes.
>> > For example, SysInternals Process Explorer and Vegas Pro 8 seem to never
>> > close properly and show an additional process in Process Explorer with
>> > every
>> > launch/exit.
>> > This is not application-specific behavior.
>> > I have XP 2002 SP3.
>> > Norton 360 with latest signatures finds no viruses or spyware.
>> > Windows Update finds no updates for my computer.
>> > Thanks
>> >
>>
>>

Fenley Crunchwhistle

Virtual memory was already set close to your recommendation. I have 1G of
physical memory , the initial page file size is set to 1534M, the maximum
size is set to 1534M.

"db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:

> well, even if the cpu
> show that small amount,
> the dialog you are using
> to view that data is also
> a process and may not
> likely be reporting the
> correct amount, until
> the cpu is free'd up.
>
> also, sometimes if virtual
> memory is set to auto
> and it is trying to
> increase the size due
> to more memory
> requirement then that
> process can stall the
> system.
>
> my suggestion is to
> set the virtual mem
> to a custom size of
> initial=2 and max=?.
>
> the recommended
> max amount is provided
> by windows on the
> lower part of the
> v.m. dialog window.
>
> next you may also
> want to download
> and install this:
>
>
>
> it will clear out the
> memory of any processes
> that are orphaned in the
> memory and stalling.
>
> --
>
> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
>
>
> "Fenley Crunchwhistle" <> wrote in
> message news:...
> > When this anamoly occurs the CPU is typically at 10-12% (Sytem Idle process:
> > 90-92%).
> >
> > "db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:
> >
> >> sometimes if the cpu
> >> is overwhelmingly
> >> busy, it cannot execute
> >> commands, which is
> >> "not" a good thing.
> >>
> >> however, you can
> >> control how busy
> >> your computer should
> >> be.
> >>
> >> my suggestion is to
> >> begin with what should
> >> be loaded when windows
> >> initializes, then be sure
> >> you conduct routine
> >> system maintenances
> >> like with:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Fenley Crunchwhistle" <Fenley > wrote
> >> in
> >> message news:...
> >> > Many applications when closed normally still appear in Task Manager.
> >> > Some exhibit this behavior all the time, some only sometimes.
> >> > For example, SysInternals Process Explorer and Vegas Pro 8 seem to never
> >> > close properly and show an additional process in Process Explorer with
> >> > every
> >> > launch/exit.
> >> > This is not application-specific behavior.
> >> > I have XP 2002 SP3.
> >> > Norton 360 with latest signatures finds no viruses or spyware.
> >> > Windows Update finds no updates for my computer.
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>

db.·.. >

set initial=2

--

db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

"Fenley Crunchwhistle" <> wrote in
message news:...
> Virtual memory was already set close to your recommendation. I have 1G of
> physical memory , the initial page file size is set to 1534M, the maximum
> size is set to 1534M.
>
> "db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:
>
>> well, even if the cpu
>> show that small amount,
>> the dialog you are using
>> to view that data is also
>> a process and may not
>> likely be reporting the
>> correct amount, until
>> the cpu is free'd up.
>>
>> also, sometimes if virtual
>> memory is set to auto
>> and it is trying to
>> increase the size due
>> to more memory
>> requirement then that
>> process can stall the
>> system.
>>
>> my suggestion is to
>> set the virtual mem
>> to a custom size of
>> initial=2 and max=?.
>>
>> the recommended
>> max amount is provided
>> by windows on the
>> lower part of the
>> v.m. dialog window.
>>
>> next you may also
>> want to download
>> and install this:
>>
>>
>>
>> it will clear out the
>> memory of any processes
>> that are orphaned in the
>> memory and stalling.
>>
>> --
>>
>> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Fenley Crunchwhistle" <> wrote
>> in
>> message news:...
>> > When this anamoly occurs the CPU is typically at 10-12% (Sytem Idle
>> > process:
>> > 90-92%).
>> >
>> > "db.·.. ><))) ·>` .. ." wrote:
>> >
>> >> sometimes if the cpu
>> >> is overwhelmingly
>> >> busy, it cannot execute
>> >> commands, which is
>> >> "not" a good thing.
>> >>
>> >> however, you can
>> >> control how busy
>> >> your computer should
>> >> be.
>> >>
>> >> my suggestion is to
>> >> begin with what should
>> >> be loaded when windows
>> >> initializes, then be sure
>> >> you conduct routine
>> >> system maintenances
>> >> like with:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> db·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Fenley Crunchwhistle" <Fenley >
>> >> wrote
>> >> in
>> >> message news:...
>> >> > Many applications when closed normally still appear in Task Manager.
>> >> > Some exhibit this behavior all the time, some only sometimes.
>> >> > For example, SysInternals Process Explorer and Vegas Pro 8 seem to never
>> >> > close properly and show an additional process in Process Explorer with
>> >> > every
>> >> > launch/exit.
>> >> > This is not application-specific behavior.
>> >> > I have XP 2002 SP3.
>> >> > Norton 360 with latest signatures finds no viruses or spyware.
>> >> > Windows Update finds no updates for my computer.
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>

Bob I

It would seem that something is preventing them from closing normally.
Have you checked for malware, keyloggers and the like? I presume you
have not installed some "reg cleaner" or "memory manager" which is
causing this issue, if so, remove them.

Fenley Crunchwhistle wrote:

> No. They stick around indefinitely. With some applications, trying to load
> them a second time just does nothing. The application doesn't become visible
> and a second instance doesn't appear in Task Manager or Process Explorer.
> With other applications the instances shown in Task Manager or Process
> Explorer just pile up as you load and then "close" them...
>
> "Bob I" wrote:
>
>
>>If you ignore this immediate check and observe later, have they gone away?
>>
>>Fenley Crunchwhistle wrote:
>>
>>>Many applications when closed normally still appear in Task Manager.
>>>Some exhibit this behavior all the time, some only sometimes.
>>>For example, SysInternals Process Explorer and Vegas Pro 8 seem to never
>>>close properly and show an additional process in Process Explorer with every
>>>launch/exit.
>>>This is not application-specific behavior.
>>>I have XP 2002 SP3.
>>>Norton 360 with latest signatures finds no viruses or spyware.
>>>Windows Update finds no updates for my computer.
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>
>>