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Unread 31-08-2007, 02:59 AM   #1
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Major Lagging-help!


I am having some issues with my daughter's computer-it LAGS so bad. It
had some lagging issues before but after I put Norton's IS on it-it has
gotten WORSE!! When I check task manager-the system and system idle
processes are completely out of whack. The CPU is running at 95-100% a
good deal of the time and I am at a loss as to what to do about it.
When I say lag-that is just what I mean!! HELP!!!!!


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Unread 31-08-2007, 03:00 AM   #2
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Re: Major Lagging-help!

So the first thing to do is remove that bloated piece of software called
Norton..............and do a google got AVG or Avast both free anti virus
programs.
Then have a look at task manager and see what exactly is running...,,,Open
Start/Run type in Msconfig and see whats starting..........
Once you have determined what those programs are then you need to determine
if you actually need them to startup....or run in the background.
let us know
peter
"nkatzer" <nkatzer.2w5rjh@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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> I am having some issues with my daughter's computer-it LAGS so bad. It
> had some lagging issues before but after I put Norton's IS on it-it has
> gotten WORSE!! When I check task manager-the system and system idle
> processes are completely out of whack. The CPU is running at 95-100% a
> good deal of the time and I am at a loss as to what to do about it.
> When I say lag-that is just what I mean!! HELP!!!!!
>
>
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Unread 31-08-2007, 03:59 AM   #3
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Re: Major Lagging-help!


oh wow-now another problem-I did a system restore and now can't get XP
to come up at all!! What do I do to correct this?


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Unread 31-08-2007, 04:59 AM   #4
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Re: Major Lagging-help!

nkatzer <nkatzer.2w5ube@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

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>oh wow-now another problem-I did a system restore and now can't get XP
>to come up at all!! What do I do to correct this?



What happens on the restart? Please describe the behavior and include
the complete verbatim text of any and all error messages that are
produced.

Try starting in Safe Mode. To do this turn on the computer and start
tapping the F8 key rapidly just as soon as the first information of
any kind shows on the screen. Keep tapping F8 until the Windows XP
Startup menu appears and choose Safe Mode from the menu. Post the
results back here.

Good luck

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Unread 31-08-2007, 11:59 PM   #5
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It went to that screen where you had the choice to go to safe mode (3
options there) then there was the option to restart the computer with
the last known configuration and then of course there is the normal
startup option. It took several reboots and selecting last known
configuration to get the computer up. I did remove Norton completely
off the computer and installed AVG. However the CPU is STILL running
extremely high ALL the time-lag is so bad that it takes forever for
anything to get accomplished. I don't know what to do. I thought
about reformatting the computer but don't really want to go that far
but will if necessary.
BTW I didn't try the safe mode because I didn't know if I should or
not. Please advise!!!


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Unread 01-09-2007, 12:59 AM   #6
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Re: Major Lagging-help!

Could you list your
hardware...mobo/cpu/ram/video/HD/etc............???????????
Did you look under msconfig to see whats starting when you start the
system??
did you look under task manager to see whats eating the resources???
help us to help you
peter
"nkatzer" <nkatzer.2w7dvi@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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> It went to that screen where you had the choice to go to safe mode (3
> options there) then there was the option to restart the computer with
> the last known configuration and then of course there is the normal
> startup option. It took several reboots and selecting last known
> configuration to get the computer up. I did remove Norton completely
> off the computer and installed AVG. However the CPU is STILL running
> extremely high ALL the time-lag is so bad that it takes forever for
> anything to get accomplished. I don't know what to do. I thought
> about reformatting the computer but don't really want to go that far
> but will if necessary.
> BTW I didn't try the safe mode because I didn't know if I should or
> not. Please advise!!!
>
>
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Unread 01-09-2007, 03:00 AM   #7
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Yes I looked in task manager and at the bottom of her's says System and
System Idle Process and the usage wavers between the two but much of
the usage is by System-I have looked at everything else on task manager
and the usage by everything else is MINIMAL. What I mean is by less
than 5% when sitting idle (rather when it's SUPPOSED to be sitting
idle).

I have no idea what all you want but here is what I know is on the
computer-which I bought in Oct 2000 (it came with ME-ewwwwwwwwww-hated
it!)

-upgraded to XP in 2002
-512 MB RAM
-564 MHz Intel Celeron Processor
-40 GB Hard Drive
-has a Sony CR-RW (52x/32x/52x)
-ESS Allegro PCI Audio (I assume this is the card ???)
I don't know where to look for a lot of other stuff-sorry-when it
comes to this part of a computer-I have to be guided! LOL If you need
any other info please let me know (you may have to tell me where to
look!)



peter;3130654 Wrote:
> Could you list your
> hardware...mobo/cpu/ram/video/HD/etc............???????????
> Did you look under msconfig to see whats starting when you start the
> system??
> did you look under task manager to see whats eating the resources???
> help us to help you
> peter
> "nkatzer" <nkatzer.2w7dvi@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
> news:nkatzer.2w7dvi@DoNotSpam.com...
> >
> > It went to that screen where you had the choice to go to safe mode

> (3
> > options there) then there was the option to restart the computer

> with
> > the last known configuration and then of course there is the normal
> > startup option. It took several reboots and selecting last known
> > configuration to get the computer up. I did remove Norton

> completely
> > off the computer and installed AVG. However the CPU is STILL

> running
> > extremely high ALL the time-lag is so bad that it takes forever for
> > anything to get accomplished. I don't know what to do. I thought
> > about reformatting the computer but don't really want to go that far
> > but will if necessary.
> > BTW I didn't try the safe mode because I didn't know if I should or
> > not. Please advise!!!
> >
> >
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Unread 01-09-2007, 05:00 AM   #8
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nkatzer wrote:
> I am having some issues with my daughter's computer-it LAGS so bad. It
> had some lagging issues before but after I put Norton's IS on it-it
> has gotten WORSE!! When I check task manager-the system and system
> idle processes are completely out of whack. The CPU is running at
> 95-100% a good deal of the time and I am at a loss as to what to do
> about it. When I say lag-that is just what I mean!! HELP!!!!!



Major causes of lagging are malware, not enough memory/too many apps
running, and failure to clear always temp files (which should often be
followed by defragmenting the hard drive).

You mentioned installing AVG elsewhere in this thread (once you wisely
uninstalled Norton). But what about anti-spyware apps? Also, how did you
uninstall Norton? Very often it leaves behind lag-inducing traces. See:

"Symantec NIS, NSW, NAV 2007/2006/2005/2004/2003 Removal Tool":
http://basconotw.mvps.org/SymRem.htm


And for future reference (these address adware and spyware):

"Spybot - Search & Destroy"
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/spybotsd/index.html

Ad-Aware 2007 Free (this complements Spybot S&D nicely):
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php

Spyware Blaster (this helps prevent spyware from being installed):
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html

A-Squared (use if the above combination doesn't work):
http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/free/

CWShredder (use if the above combination doesn't work):
http://us.trendmicro.com/us/products...al/CWShredder/

I've also heard good things about SUPERAntiSpyware (although I haven't
used it):
http://www.superantispyware.com/

(Note: Just use the free versions of the above programs.)


As Peter also mentioned, you need to look at everything set to run at
startup:

Start | Run | msconfig
Look under the startup tab and post back what you see.


If you want to do your own sleuthing, these two Web sites are very
helpful:

Startup Programs Database
http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/startups/

TASK LIST PROGRAMS
http://www.answersthatwork.com/Taskl...s/tasklist.htm


Finally, you need to make sure temp files are cleared away.

The easiest way to do this is to use Ccleaner:

http://www.ccleaner.com

Here's a screenshot of the main window:

http://www.ccleaner.com/screenshots/main-window

Definitely use it in Cleaner mode. But stay away from the Issues section
(which alters the registry) unless you *really* know what you are doing.


By the way, how much free, unused space do you have left on your 40GB
hard drive?


 
Unread 01-09-2007, 06:59 AM   #9
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On Sat, 1 Sep 2007 04:43:54 +0530, nkatzer
<nkatzer.2w7dvi@DoNotSpam.com> wrote:

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>It went to that screen where you had the choice to go to safe mode (3
>options there) then there was the option to restart the computer with
>the last known configuration and then of course there is the normal
>startup option. It took several reboots and selecting last known
>configuration to get the computer up. I did remove Norton completely
>off the computer and installed AVG. However the CPU is STILL running
>extremely high ALL the time-lag is so bad that it takes forever for
>anything to get accomplished. I don't know what to do. I thought
>about reformatting the computer but don't really want to go that far
>but will if necessary.
>BTW I didn't try the safe mode because I didn't know if I should or
>not. Please advise!!!



When was it last defragged ?
 
Unread 01-09-2007, 04:59 PM   #10
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Dave gave you a good starting place of where to look
here are a few sites that might help........if your not sure on how to do
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http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...rformance.mspx

the following site can scan your system and make suggestions on how to fix
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With the resources moving back and forth between system..system idle it
seems that "something" is using the resouces sporadically...
what we dont know....indexing??.messenger?? mail open??? something
scanning??
peter
"nkatzer" <nkatzer.2w7m7l@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Yes I looked in task manager and at the bottom of her's says System and
> System Idle Process and the usage wavers between the two but much of
> the usage is by System-I have looked at everything else on task manager
> and the usage by everything else is MINIMAL. What I mean is by less
> than 5% when sitting idle (rather when it's SUPPOSED to be sitting
> idle).
>
> I have no idea what all you want but here is what I know is on the
> computer-which I bought in Oct 2000 (it came with ME-ewwwwwwwwww-hated
> it!)
>
> -upgraded to XP in 2002
> -512 MB RAM
> -564 MHz Intel Celeron Processor
> -40 GB Hard Drive
> -has a Sony CR-RW (52x/32x/52x)
> -ESS Allegro PCI Audio (I assume this is the card ???)
> I don't know where to look for a lot of other stuff-sorry-when it
> comes to this part of a computer-I have to be guided! LOL If you need
> any other info please let me know (you may have to tell me where to
> look!)
>
>
>
> peter;3130654 Wrote:
>> Could you list your
>> hardware...mobo/cpu/ram/video/HD/etc............???????????
>> Did you look under msconfig to see whats starting when you start the
>> system??
>> did you look under task manager to see whats eating the resources???
>> help us to help you
>> peter
>> "nkatzer" <nkatzer.2w7dvi@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
>> news:nkatzer.2w7dvi@DoNotSpam.com...
>> >
>> > It went to that screen where you had the choice to go to safe mode

>> (3
>> > options there) then there was the option to restart the computer

>> with
>> > the last known configuration and then of course there is the normal
>> > startup option. It took several reboots and selecting last known
>> > configuration to get the computer up. I did remove Norton

>> completely
>> > off the computer and installed AVG. However the CPU is STILL

>> running
>> > extremely high ALL the time-lag is so bad that it takes forever for
>> > anything to get accomplished. I don't know what to do. I thought
>> > about reformatting the computer but don't really want to go that far
>> > but will if necessary.
>> > BTW I didn't try the safe mode because I didn't know if I should or
>> > not. Please advise!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > nkatzer
>> >

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