Windows Media Player BLINDSIDE update!

D. W. K.

I DO NOT have automatic updates on!

"GHalleck" <> wrote in message
news:.gbl...
>
> D. W. K. wrote:
>
>> Thank you Shenan but... that IS exactly how my system IS set up right
>> now! That is exactly how every other update I get notifications about is
>> treated. The problem is with THIS particular Microsoft update! THEY have
>> chosen, for some reason, to send it out without ANY option to read
>> anything about it first. Also, why do they dishonestly disguise it as a
>> "version 10" update?
>>
>> DWK
>>
>
> Semantically, Media Player 11 is an "update" to Media Player 10 and
> there is no disguising this fact. But Shenan is perfectly correct in
> that one needs to take control of one's system and determine just what
> update should be installed and which others, not. The first thing to
> do is to turn off "automatic updates"

D. W. K.

It was not my "imagination"! They said (again) it was a "version 10" update!
Is this fact getting lost somewhere here?

"Doug" <> wrote in message
news:.gbl...
>| > Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
> | > notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
> | > research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never
> | > install anything you do not want to...
> | >
> | > --
> | > Shenan Stanley
> | > MS-MVP
> | > --
> | > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
> "D. W. K." <[removethis]dwkcpbd@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uMJEaAqmHHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | Thank you Shenan but... that IS exactly how my system IS set up right
> now!
> | That is exactly how every other update I get notifications about is
> treated.
> | The problem is with THIS particular Microsoft update! THEY have chosen,
> for
> | some reason, to send it out without ANY option to read anything about it
> | first. Also, why do they dishonestly disguise it as a "version 10"
> update?
> |
> | DWK
> |
> | "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:OQD6C2pmHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | >
> | >
>
>
> So, if I understand correctly *you* accepted an update to *your* computer
> that *you* did not get "ANY option to read anything about" and now you're
> mad because it wasn't what *you* imagined it might be? I can understand
> your
> consternation, obviously this is someone else's fault.
>
> In any event restoring from your most recent disk image or backup should
> put
> the situation right.
> --
> Doug
>
> I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
> I was just trying to help.
> Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
> advice herein.
> No warranty is expressed or implied.
> Your mileage may vary.
> See store for details.
>
> Remove shoes to E-mail.
>
>

D. W. K.

It was not my "imagination"! They said (again) it was a "version 10" update!
Is this fact getting lost somewhere here?

"Doug" <> wrote in message
news:.gbl...
>| > Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
> | > notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
> | > research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never
> | > install anything you do not want to...
> | >
> | > --
> | > Shenan Stanley
> | > MS-MVP
> | > --
> | > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
> "D. W. K." <[removethis]dwkcpbd@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:uMJEaAqmHHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> | Thank you Shenan but... that IS exactly how my system IS set up right
> now!
> | That is exactly how every other update I get notifications about is
> treated.
> | The problem is with THIS particular Microsoft update! THEY have chosen,
> for
> | some reason, to send it out without ANY option to read anything about it
> | first. Also, why do they dishonestly disguise it as a "version 10"
> update?
> |
> | DWK
> |
> | "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:OQD6C2pmHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> | >
> | >
>
>
> So, if I understand correctly *you* accepted an update to *your* computer
> that *you* did not get "ANY option to read anything about" and now you're
> mad because it wasn't what *you* imagined it might be? I can understand
> your
> consternation, obviously this is someone else's fault.
>
> In any event restoring from your most recent disk image or backup should
> put
> the situation right.
> --
> Doug
>
> I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
> I was just trying to help.
> Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
> advice herein.
> No warranty is expressed or implied.
> Your mileage may vary.
> See store for details.
>
> Remove shoes to E-mail.
>
>

D. W. K.

THANK YOU ALAN! You nailed it exactly!

DWK )

"Alan" <inthegalaxy@solarsystem.huh> wrote in message
news:OR0YMpumHHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello Shenan (and others),
>
> To be fair to D. W. K. -- and others who might have inadvertently
> installed WMP 11 -- there is NO indication of what the "update" to WMP 10
> actually involves.
>
> If someone opens WMP 10 -- depending upon the Automatic updates settings,
> which are accessed via Tools | Options and clicking on the Player tab, the
> options presented are: "Check for Updates Once a Day, Once a week or Once
> a month." (There is NO checkbox to NEVER check for updates.) -- the
> Windows Media Configuration Manager will appear and the user sees a dialog
> box that states: "A Windows Media Update is available. Do you want to
> update now?" The options presented to the user are "Yes" or "Cancel".
>
> If a user manually checks to see if there are any updates to WMP 10 by
> clicking Help | Check for Player Updates, the user will see these
> statements:
> o - Windows Media Player 10 requires 1 megabytes (MB). Upgrading will take
> approximately 0 minutes over a 28.8 KBps connection.
> o - Click Next to begin the download and update or Click Cancel to
> postpone the update.
>
> There is NO indication anywhere that "updating" means an upgrade to WMP
> 11.
>
> One can argue that "update" can be assumed to mean that WMP 10 will become
> WMP 11.
>
> However, I do think that Microsoft should be much more explicit and
> transparent as to what a user is agreeing to if he or she decides to
> "update" an application that is working perfectly as is.
>
> Alan
>
>
> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OQD6C2pmHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> D. W. K. wrote:
>>> I am furious with Microsoft!
>>>
>>> For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>>> notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns
>>> out to be a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT
>>> WANT VERSION 11!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and
>>> there was no opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was
>>> NOT an upgrade to 10 but a "forced down your throat" installation
>>> of 11!
>>> I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have
>>> decided to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the
>>> least! If you want to offer an update to MP11 then come right out
>>> and say so! At least give someone the opportunity to say NO!
>>>
>>> I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!
>>
>>
>> Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
>> notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
>> research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never
>> install anything you do not want to...
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>>
>>
>
>

D. W. K.

THANK YOU ALAN! You nailed it exactly!

DWK )

"Alan" <inthegalaxy@solarsystem.huh> wrote in message
news:OR0YMpumHHA.3872@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hello Shenan (and others),
>
> To be fair to D. W. K. -- and others who might have inadvertently
> installed WMP 11 -- there is NO indication of what the "update" to WMP 10
> actually involves.
>
> If someone opens WMP 10 -- depending upon the Automatic updates settings,
> which are accessed via Tools | Options and clicking on the Player tab, the
> options presented are: "Check for Updates Once a Day, Once a week or Once
> a month." (There is NO checkbox to NEVER check for updates.) -- the
> Windows Media Configuration Manager will appear and the user sees a dialog
> box that states: "A Windows Media Update is available. Do you want to
> update now?" The options presented to the user are "Yes" or "Cancel".
>
> If a user manually checks to see if there are any updates to WMP 10 by
> clicking Help | Check for Player Updates, the user will see these
> statements:
> o - Windows Media Player 10 requires 1 megabytes (MB). Upgrading will take
> approximately 0 minutes over a 28.8 KBps connection.
> o - Click Next to begin the download and update or Click Cancel to
> postpone the update.
>
> There is NO indication anywhere that "updating" means an upgrade to WMP
> 11.
>
> One can argue that "update" can be assumed to mean that WMP 10 will become
> WMP 11.
>
> However, I do think that Microsoft should be much more explicit and
> transparent as to what a user is agreeing to if he or she decides to
> "update" an application that is working perfectly as is.
>
> Alan
>
>
> "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OQD6C2pmHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> D. W. K. wrote:
>>> I am furious with Microsoft!
>>>
>>> For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>>> notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns
>>> out to be a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT
>>> WANT VERSION 11!!!!!!!!
>>>
>>> This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and
>>> there was no opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was
>>> NOT an upgrade to 10 but a "forced down your throat" installation
>>> of 11!
>>> I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have
>>> decided to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the
>>> least! If you want to offer an update to MP11 then come right out
>>> and say so! At least give someone the opportunity to say NO!
>>>
>>> I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!
>>
>>
>> Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
>> notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
>> research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never
>> install anything you do not want to...
>>
>> --
>> Shenan Stanley
>> MS-MVP
>> --
>> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>>
>>
>
>

D. W. K.

YES! This is why I do not want WMP11. Thank you!


"V Green" <> wrote in message
news:.gbl...
>
> "Alan" <> wrote in message
> news:.gbl...
>> Hello Shenan (and others),
>>
>> To be fair to D. W. K. -- and others who might have inadvertently
>> installed
>> WMP 11 -- there is NO indication of what the "update" to WMP 10 actually
>> involves.
>>
>> If someone opens WMP 10 -- depending upon the Automatic updates settings,
>> which are accessed via Tools | Options and clicking on the Player tab,
>> the
>> options presented are: "Check for Updates Once a Day, Once a week or Once
>> a
>> month." (There is NO checkbox to NEVER check for updates.) -- the Windows
>> Media Configuration Manager will appear and the user sees a dialog box
>> that
>> states: "A Windows Media Update is available. Do you want to update now?"
>> The options presented to the user are "Yes" or "Cancel".
>>
>> If a user manually checks to see if there are any updates to WMP 10 by
>> clicking Help | Check for Player Updates, the user will see these
>> statements:
>> o - Windows Media Player 10 requires 1 megabytes (MB). Upgrading will
>> take
>> approximately 0 minutes over a 28.8 KBps connection.
>> o - Click Next to begin the download and update or Click Cancel to
>> postpone
>> the update.
>>
>> There is NO indication anywhere that "updating" means an upgrade to WMP
>> 11.
>>
>> One can argue that "update" can be assumed to mean that WMP 10 will
>> become
>> WMP 11.
>>
>> However, I do think that Microsoft should be much more explicit and
>> transparent as to what a user is agreeing to if he or she decides to
>> "update" an application that is working perfectly as is.
>>
>> Alan
>
> Especially since the WMP 11 "upgrade" does nothing but
> prettify the UI, remove lots of playlist organization stuff
> that people liked, and shove more online stores down your
> throat...
>
> Upgrade, my a$$.
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Shenan Stanley" <> wrote in message
>> news:.gbl...
>> > D. W. K. wrote:
>> >> I am furious with Microsoft!
>> >>
>> >> For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>> >> notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns
>> >> out to be a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT
>> >> WANT VERSION 11!!!!!!!!
>> >>
>> >> This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and
>> >> there was no opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was
>> >> NOT an upgrade to 10 but a "forced down your throat" installation
>> >> of 11!
>> >> I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have
>> >> decided to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the
>> >> least! If you want to offer an update to MP11 then come right out
>> >> and say so! At least give someone the opportunity to say NO!
>> >>
>> >> I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!
>> >
>> >
>> > Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
>> > notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
>> > research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never
>> > install anything you do not want to...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Shenan Stanley
>> > MS-MVP
>> > --
>> > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

D. W. K.

YES! This is why I do not want WMP11. Thank you!


"V Green" <> wrote in message
news:.gbl...
>
> "Alan" <> wrote in message
> news:.gbl...
>> Hello Shenan (and others),
>>
>> To be fair to D. W. K. -- and others who might have inadvertently
>> installed
>> WMP 11 -- there is NO indication of what the "update" to WMP 10 actually
>> involves.
>>
>> If someone opens WMP 10 -- depending upon the Automatic updates settings,
>> which are accessed via Tools | Options and clicking on the Player tab,
>> the
>> options presented are: "Check for Updates Once a Day, Once a week or Once
>> a
>> month." (There is NO checkbox to NEVER check for updates.) -- the Windows
>> Media Configuration Manager will appear and the user sees a dialog box
>> that
>> states: "A Windows Media Update is available. Do you want to update now?"
>> The options presented to the user are "Yes" or "Cancel".
>>
>> If a user manually checks to see if there are any updates to WMP 10 by
>> clicking Help | Check for Player Updates, the user will see these
>> statements:
>> o - Windows Media Player 10 requires 1 megabytes (MB). Upgrading will
>> take
>> approximately 0 minutes over a 28.8 KBps connection.
>> o - Click Next to begin the download and update or Click Cancel to
>> postpone
>> the update.
>>
>> There is NO indication anywhere that "updating" means an upgrade to WMP
>> 11.
>>
>> One can argue that "update" can be assumed to mean that WMP 10 will
>> become
>> WMP 11.
>>
>> However, I do think that Microsoft should be much more explicit and
>> transparent as to what a user is agreeing to if he or she decides to
>> "update" an application that is working perfectly as is.
>>
>> Alan
>
> Especially since the WMP 11 "upgrade" does nothing but
> prettify the UI, remove lots of playlist organization stuff
> that people liked, and shove more online stores down your
> throat...
>
> Upgrade, my a$$.
>
>
>>
>>
>> "Shenan Stanley" <> wrote in message
>> news:.gbl...
>> > D. W. K. wrote:
>> >> I am furious with Microsoft!
>> >>
>> >> For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>> >> notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns
>> >> out to be a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT
>> >> WANT VERSION 11!!!!!!!!
>> >>
>> >> This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and
>> >> there was no opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was
>> >> NOT an upgrade to 10 but a "forced down your throat" installation
>> >> of 11!
>> >> I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have
>> >> decided to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the
>> >> least! If you want to offer an update to MP11 then come right out
>> >> and say so! At least give someone the opportunity to say NO!
>> >>
>> >> I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!
>> >
>> >
>> > Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
>> > notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
>> > research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never
>> > install anything you do not want to...
>> >
>> > --
>> > Shenan Stanley
>> > MS-MVP
>> > --
>> > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

D. W. K.

It is not possible to go through life without making at least SOME
assumptions! That includes you. Think about it!

"Uncle Grumpy" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "D. W. K." <[removethis]> wrote:
>
>>When Microsoft sends you a notification of updates to "Version 10" you
>>have
>>a natural right and expectation to assume it is "Version 10"!
>
> Keyword: assume.
>
> Not smart.

D. W. K.

Contact Microsoft? You must be kidding! You would have better luck
"contacting" the Pope!


"Rock" <> wrote in message
news:%.gbl...
> "D. W. K." wrote
>
>>I am furious with Microsoft!
>>
>> For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>> notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns out to
>> be a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT WANT VERSION
>> 11!!!!!!!!
>>
>> This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and there was
>> no opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was NOT an upgrade
>> to 10 but a "forced down your throat" installation of 11!
>>
>> I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have
>> decided to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the least! If
>> you want to offer an update to MP11 then come right out and say so! At
>> least give someone the opportunity to say NO!
>>
>> I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!
>
> If you want to hear from someone at Microsoft about this, you need to
> contact them. This newsgroup, on the other hand, is a peer to peer
> support group. All the folks who post here are volunteers. Occasionally
> an MS employee will post here but on their own time, so I doubt you'll get
> a response from MS here.
>
> I stopped using automatic updates long ago. I go to the windows update
> site manually, scan for updates, and review in detail what is offered
> before installing them.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

D. W. K.

Contact Microsoft? You must be kidding! You would have better luck
"contacting" the Pope!


"Rock" <> wrote in message
news:%.gbl...
> "D. W. K." wrote
>
>>I am furious with Microsoft!
>>
>> For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>> notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns out to
>> be a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT WANT VERSION
>> 11!!!!!!!!
>>
>> This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and there was
>> no opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was NOT an upgrade
>> to 10 but a "forced down your throat" installation of 11!
>>
>> I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have
>> decided to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the least! If
>> you want to offer an update to MP11 then come right out and say so! At
>> least give someone the opportunity to say NO!
>>
>> I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!
>
> If you want to hear from someone at Microsoft about this, you need to
> contact them. This newsgroup, on the other hand, is a peer to peer
> support group. All the folks who post here are volunteers. Occasionally
> an MS employee will post here but on their own time, so I doubt you'll get
> a response from MS here.
>
> I stopped using automatic updates long ago. I go to the windows update
> site manually, scan for updates, and review in detail what is offered
> before installing them.
>
> --
> Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]