Windows Media Player BLINDSIDE update!

D. W. K.

I am furious with Microsoft!

For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns out to be
a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT WANT VERSION
11!!!!!!!!

This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and there was no
opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was NOT an upgrade to 10
but a "forced down your throat" installation of 11!

I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have decided
to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the least! If you want to
offer an update to MP11 then come right out and say so! At least give
someone the opportunity to say NO!

I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!

DWK
Simi Valley, CA

Shenan Stanley

D. W. K. wrote:
> I am furious with Microsoft!
>
> For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
> notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns
> out to be a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT
> WANT VERSION 11!!!!!!!!
>
> This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and
> there was no opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was
> NOT an upgrade to 10 but a "forced down your throat" installation
> of 11!
> I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have
> decided to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the
> least! If you want to offer an update to MP11 then come right out
> and say so! At least give someone the opportunity to say NO!
>
> I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!


Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never install
anything you do not want to...

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

D. W. K.

Thank you Shenan but... that IS exactly how my system IS set up right now!
That is exactly how every other update I get notifications about is treated.
The problem is with THIS particular Microsoft update! THEY have chosen, for
some reason, to send it out without ANY option to read anything about it
first. Also, why do they dishonestly disguise it as a "version 10" update?

DWK

"Shenan Stanley" <> wrote in message
news:.gbl...
> D. W. K. wrote:
>> I am furious with Microsoft!
>>
>> For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>> notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns
>> out to be a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT
>> WANT VERSION 11!!!!!!!!
>>
>> This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and
>> there was no opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was
>> NOT an upgrade to 10 but a "forced down your throat" installation
>> of 11!
>> I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have
>> decided to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the
>> least! If you want to offer an update to MP11 then come right out
>> and say so! At least give someone the opportunity to say NO!
>>
>> I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!
>
>
> Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
> notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
> research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never
> install anything you do not want to...
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>
>

Uncle Grumpy

"D. W. K." <[removethis]> wrote:

>
>For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns out to be
>a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT WANT VERSION
>11!!!!!!!!

Then stop replying to notifications about "updates" of 10. There are
obviously NO such updates.

GHalleck

D. W. K. wrote:

> Thank you Shenan but... that IS exactly how my system IS set up right now!
> That is exactly how every other update I get notifications about is treated.
> The problem is with THIS particular Microsoft update! THEY have chosen, for
> some reason, to send it out without ANY option to read anything about it
> first. Also, why do they dishonestly disguise it as a "version 10" update?
>
> DWK
>

Semantically, Media Player 11 is an "update" to Media Player 10 and
there is no disguising this fact. But Shenan is perfectly correct in
that one needs to take control of one's system and determine just what
update should be installed and which others, not. The first thing to
do is to turn off "automatic updates"

D. W. K.

I don't understand what you mean! Your response is rude! I was responding to
a previous response to my original message!

When Microsoft sends you a notification of updates to "Version 10" you have
a natural right and expectation to assume it is "Version 10"! Clearly by
this time I no longer believe them but I had to be blindsided twice to find
that out! THAT should not have had to happen! THAT is Microsoft's fault!
What Microsoft has now done to me is put me on notice that they cannot be
trusted... and I WILL NOT trust them again! That is the unfortunate result!

DWK
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"Uncle Grumpy" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "D. W. K." <[removethis]> wrote:
>
>>
>>For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>>notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns out to
>>be
>>a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT WANT VERSION
>>11!!!!!!!!
>
> Then stop replying to notifications about "updates" of 10. There are
> obviously NO such updates.

Doug

| > Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
| > notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
| > research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never
| > install anything you do not want to...
| >
| > --
| > Shenan Stanley
| > MS-MVP
| > --
| > How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
| >
| >
|
|

"D. W. K." <[removethis]dwkcpbd@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:uMJEaAqmHHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
| Thank you Shenan but... that IS exactly how my system IS set up right now!
| That is exactly how every other update I get notifications about is
treated.
| The problem is with THIS particular Microsoft update! THEY have chosen,
for
| some reason, to send it out without ANY option to read anything about it
| first. Also, why do they dishonestly disguise it as a "version 10" update?
|
| DWK
|
| "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote in message
| news:OQD6C2pmHHA.4032@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
| >
| >


So, if I understand correctly *you* accepted an update to *your* computer
that *you* did not get "ANY option to read anything about" and now you're
mad because it wasn't what *you* imagined it might be? I can understand your
consternation, obviously this is someone else's fault.

In any event restoring from your most recent disk image or backup should put
the situation right.
--
Doug

I'm not an MVP a VIP nor do I have ESP.
I was just trying to help.
Please use your own best judgment before implementing any suggestions or
advice herein.
No warranty is expressed or implied.
Your mileage may vary.
See store for details.

Remove shoes to E-mail.

Uncle Grumpy

"D. W. K." <[removethis]> wrote:

>When Microsoft sends you a notification of updates to "Version 10" you have
>a natural right and expectation to assume it is "Version 10"!

Keyword: assume.

Not smart.

Uncle Grumpy

"D. W. K." <[removethis]> wrote:

>When Microsoft sends you a notification of updates to "Version 10" you have
>a natural right and expectation to assume it is "Version 10"!

Keyword: assume.

Not smart.

Alan

Hello Shenan (and others),

To be fair to D. W. K. -- and others who might have inadvertently installed
WMP 11 -- there is NO indication of what the "update" to WMP 10 actually
involves.

If someone opens WMP 10 -- depending upon the Automatic updates settings,
which are accessed via Tools | Options and clicking on the Player tab, the
options presented are: "Check for Updates Once a Day, Once a week or Once a
month." (There is NO checkbox to NEVER check for updates.) -- the Windows
Media Configuration Manager will appear and the user sees a dialog box that
states: "A Windows Media Update is available. Do you want to update now?"
The options presented to the user are "Yes" or "Cancel".

If a user manually checks to see if there are any updates to WMP 10 by
clicking Help | Check for Player Updates, the user will see these
statements:
o - Windows Media Player 10 requires 1 megabytes (MB). Upgrading will take
approximately 0 minutes over a 28.8 KBps connection.
o - Click Next to begin the download and update or Click Cancel to postpone
the update.

There is NO indication anywhere that "updating" means an upgrade to WMP 11.

One can argue that "update" can be assumed to mean that WMP 10 will become
WMP 11.

However, I do think that Microsoft should be much more explicit and
transparent as to what a user is agreeing to if he or she decides to
"update" an application that is working perfectly as is.

Alan


"Shenan Stanley" <> wrote in message
news:.gbl...
> D. W. K. wrote:
>> I am furious with Microsoft!
>>
>> For the second time now I have been blindsided by Microsoft with a
>> notification regarding an "update to Media Player 10" which turns
>> out to be a stealth installation of version 11! I DO NOT
>> WANT VERSION 11!!!!!!!!
>>
>> This is disgusting! It was billed as a "Version 10" update and
>> there was no opportunity to cancel this prior to discovering it was
>> NOT an upgrade to 10 but a "forced down your throat" installation
>> of 11!
>> I would like to hear from someone at Microsoft as to why they have
>> decided to do this in this way! This is infuriating to say the
>> least! If you want to offer an update to MP11 then come right out
>> and say so! At least give someone the opportunity to say NO!
>>
>> I WILL NEVER TRUST ANY MICROSOFT UPDATES AGAIN!
>
>
> Uhm... If you just changed the way you get updates to 'download and
> notify' - you could choose what to install and read about each one -
> research a little (you know - put a little effort into it) and never
> install anything you do not want to...
>
> --
> Shenan Stanley
> MS-MVP
> --
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
>
>