Windows Help & Support

Windows Help & Support (https://www.techtalkz.com/windows-help/)
-   Windows Vista (https://www.techtalkz.com/windows-help/windows-vista.html)
-   -   I turned off UAC (https://www.techtalkz.com/windows-help/7944-i-turned-off-uac.html)

Justin 02-15-2009 05:30 AM

I turned off UAC
 
For various reasons I turned off UAC.
Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
me constantly?

Thegrackfire 02-15-2009 06:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Justin wrote:
> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?


You can substitute it with the new one now:
"Welcome viruses!
I have opened the door to you all because windows is a crappy insecure
OS, and the only thing that was saving my ass was UAC that was stupid
and annoying. How ELSE could MS blame the users for its own bad design?"

Thegrackfire 02-15-2009 06:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Justin wrote:
> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?


Awhh ok I wont be so bad...

go to control panel (click on clasic view on the left)> security center
> and on the left you will see "change the way security center alerts me"


good luck with viruses

semoi 02-15-2009 07:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
The UAC, as you realize, is utterly useless.
The concept of a warning is admirable. However the Vista UAC is simply a
blind prompt that gives no information about any potential threat and merely
pops up as result of user actions. Its aim is to make the user feel
responsible if something goes awry rather than blame the lazy ass
programming that goes into Windows.
Win7/Vista SP3 does not have the knee jerk UAC of Vista. Alas Win7/Vista SP3
retains, as far as I can see and have read, all the lazy ass programming
that makes Windows unnecessarily vulnerable to the evil a-holes of the
world.
The OS itself, whether Windows/Apple/Linux is rapidly becoming irrelevant in
a browser based, cloud computing world.
IBM may have the last laugh as it pushes a Linux based cloud computing model
to companies fed up with tithing Microsoft's endless and valueless upgrade
cycles.


FBonWin7b1x64 02-15-2009 07:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Thegrackfire wrote:
> Justin wrote:
>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
>> warning me constantly?

>
> You can substitute it with the new one now:
> "Welcome viruses!
> I have opened the door to you all because windows is a crappy insecure
> OS, and the only thing that was saving my ass was UAC that was stupid
> and annoying. How ELSE could MS blame the users for its own bad design?"


Hey CAPIN' CRUNCH...YOUR EMPTY HEAD FELL OUT OF YOUR FAT STUPID ASS AGAIN!
OOPS!!!
Re-install!!!

Thegrackfire 02-15-2009 07:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
FBonWin7b1x64 wrote:
> Thegrackfire wrote:
>> Justin wrote:
>>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
>>> warning me constantly?

>>
>> You can substitute it with the new one now:
>> "Welcome viruses!
>> I have opened the door to you all because windows is a crappy insecure
>> OS, and the only thing that was saving my ass was UAC that was stupid
>> and annoying. How ELSE could MS blame the users for its own bad design?"

>
> Hey CAPIN' CRUNCH...YOUR EMPTY HEAD FELL OUT OF YOUR FAT STUPID ASS AGAIN!
> OOPS!!!
> Re-install!!!



Yet I was knowledgeable enough to provide him with the solution even
though i know vista is stinky. Which was:


go to control panel (click on classic view on the left)> security center
> and on the left you will see "change the way security center alerts me"


You a big fat bald and old vista fan, dont care about vista users.
You are here only as a toothless watchdog that runs around barking to
everyone insulting your precious vista.

Thegrackfire 02-15-2009 07:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
semoi wrote:
> The UAC, as you realize, is utterly useless.
> The concept of a warning is admirable. However the Vista UAC is simply a
> blind prompt that gives no information about any potential threat and
> merely pops up as result of user actions. Its aim is to make the user
> feel responsible if something goes awry rather than blame the lazy ass
> programming that goes into Windows.
> Win7/Vista SP3 does not have the knee jerk UAC of Vista. Alas Win7/Vista
> SP3 retains, as far as I can see and have read, all the lazy ass
> programming that makes Windows unnecessarily vulnerable to the evil
> a-holes of the world.
> The OS itself, whether Windows/Apple/Linux is rapidly becoming
> irrelevant in a browser based, cloud computing world.
> IBM may have the last laugh as it pushes a Linux based cloud computing
> model to companies fed up with tithing Microsoft's endless and valueless
> upgrade cycles.



You are correct about all the points you are making. I have talked about
them again and again in here, but vista fans dont have high IQ's and
dont understand what the heck I am talking about.

> The OS itself, whether Windows/Apple/Linux is rapidly becoming
> irrelevant in a browser based, cloud computing world.


This is why linux has an advantage over windows in the new CLOUD era.
all that is needed is a cheap and stable platform to access the cloud.
The cloud is self updating self upgrading...

the only problem with the cloud, is that it will be getting better
without you knowing what changes will be going on! lol


Kayman 02-15-2009 08:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:

> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?


Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
¡E User Account Control
¡E Image management
¡E Display Driver Model
¡E Search
¡E 64 bit architecture
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
detected every rootkit used in the test.

Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
"The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
considerations:
Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
UAC in Vista).

You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is disabled,
then Run As Administrator is disabled too.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc709691.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc160882.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc138019.aspx

Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!

Good luck :)

Not Even Me 02-15-2009 09:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 

"Kayman" <kayhkay-nospam-@operamail.com> wrote in message
news:tkyvtjw916zj.1t5r5ei02wrl4.dlg@40tude.net...
> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
> Good luck :)


Most users with a brain don't like the constant nagging of UAC.
As good as the idea may be, the implementation is so poor as to render it
useless.



Thegrackfire 02-15-2009 09:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Not Even Me wrote:
> "Kayman" <kayhkay-nospam-@operamail.com> wrote in message
> news:tkyvtjw916zj.1t5r5ei02wrl4.dlg@40tude.net...
>> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
>> Good luck :)

>
> Most users with a brain don't like the constant nagging of UAC.
> As good as the idea may be, the implementation is so poor as to render it
> useless.
>
>


no one seems to have mentioned www.tweakuac.com

TweakUACâ„¢ is a free software tool that you can use to quickly turn UAC
(User Account Control of Windows Vista) on or off, or to make UAC
operate in the quiet mode. This software is FREE, no strings attached.

Thegrackfire 02-15-2009 09:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Justin wrote:
> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?


no one seems to have mentioned www.tweakuac.com

TweakUACâ„¢ is a free software tool that you can use to quickly turn UAC
(User Account Control of Windows Vista) on or off, or to make UAC
operate in the quiet mode. This software is FREE, no strings attached.

Dave-UK 02-15-2009 11:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 


"Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?


Here is a good article about UAC and several methods on how to modify it and remove
the constant nag messages:

http://www.computerperformance.co.uk...nt_control.htm




Mike Hall - MVP 02-15-2009 03:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
"Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?



Go to Control Panel > Security Center..

Now click on 'Change the way Security Center alerts me'

--
Mike Hall - MVP

Mike's Window - My Blog..
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx





tweakvista 02-15-2009 04:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 

Disabling UAC is not dangerious at all tbh. It is rather annoying and
unless your a 'newb' i suggest disabling it.

If you know what your doing on your computer the only thing you really
need is a firewall and not an anti-virus.


--
tweakvista

Saucy 02-15-2009 04:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
news:%23OEUKQ4jJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
> news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
>> me constantly?

>
>
> Go to Control Panel > Security Center..
>
> Now click on 'Change the way Security Center alerts me'
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
>
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>
>



No fuss, no muss, no screeches about Linux or Apple, just the correct
answer.

Saucy


Justin 02-15-2009 07:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Kayman wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
>
>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
>> me constantly?

>
> Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
> ¡E User Account Control
> ¡E Image management
> ¡E Display Driver Model
> ¡E Search
> ¡E 64 bit architecture
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>
> The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
> AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
> good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
> detected every rootkit used in the test.
>
> Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
> "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
> avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
> considerations:
> Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
> full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
> running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
> UAC in Vista).
>
> You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
> the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is disabled,
> then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc709691.aspx
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc160882.aspx
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc138019.aspx
>
> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
>
> Good luck :)



I understand why UAC is there.
I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update
and the Java updater as well.

Jack the Ripper 02-15-2009 08:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Justin wrote:
> Kayman wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
>>
>>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
>>> warning me constantly?

>>
>> Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
>> ¡E User Account Control
>> ¡E Image management
>> ¡E Display Driver Model
>> ¡E Search
>> ¡E 64 bit architecture
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>>
>>
>> The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
>> AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
>> good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
>> detected every rootkit used in the test.
>>
>> Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
>> "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
>> avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
>> considerations:
>> Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
>> full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
>> running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
>> UAC in Vista).
>>
>> You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
>> the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is
>> disabled,
>> then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc709691.aspx
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc160882.aspx
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc138019.aspx
>>
>> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
>>
>> Good luck :)

>
>
> I understand why UAC is there.
> I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update
> and the Java updater as well.


Interferes as far as what? I have Thunderbird and Java in use, and I
see no interference with UAC enabled, other than you have to approve the
update.

Do you really know what UAC is about? It's about not allowing a
user-admin to run on the Internet or do anything else as a full-rights
admin like on XP.

The admin-user is only a user with Standard user rights, that must be
escalated to admin rights, the escalation to full-admin rights only last
for the moment of escalation to do the task, and then the admin user is
returned to being a Standard user again with Standard user rights only,
not admin rights.

Unlike XP that has no UAC, Vista doesn't allow a virus or malware the
ability to have full rein on the computer once it has compromised the
machine like on XP with a full-rights admin user using the machine.

Malware or a virus can only run under the context of the user account
that is using the computer. If admin user on Vista is only a Standard
user with Standard user rights in reality that must be escalated to full
admin rights, then that mitigates the damage that can occur because the
virus or malware is not running with full admin rights with the user
that's using an admin account on Vista.

Nothing is bulletproof, but one doesn't see a lot of posts by Vista
users about virus or malware issues, not like you see on XP.





Gordon 02-15-2009 10:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
"Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
news:ewwEmZ6jJHA.5964@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> I understand why UAC is there.
> I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update and
> the Java updater as well.



Nope - doesn't do that here....

--
Asking a question?
Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
your OS, Service Pack level
and the FULL contents of any error message(s)


Justin 02-16-2009 01:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Jack the Ripper wrote:
> Justin wrote:
>> Kayman wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
>>>
>>>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>>>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
>>>> warning me constantly?
>>>
>>> Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
>>> ¡E User Account Control
>>> ¡E Image management
>>> ¡E Display Driver Model
>>> ¡E Search
>>> ¡E 64 bit architecture
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en
>>>
>>>
>>> The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
>>> AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
>>> good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
>>> detected every rootkit used in the test.
>>>
>>> Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
>>> "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
>>> avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
>>> considerations:
>>> Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
>>> full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
>>> running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
>>> UAC in Vista).
>>>
>>> You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
>>> the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is
>>> disabled,
>>> then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
>>>
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc709691.aspx
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc160882.aspx
>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc138019.aspx
>>>
>>> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
>>>
>>> Good luck :)

>>
>>
>> I understand why UAC is there.
>> I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update
>> and the Java updater as well.

>
> Interferes as far as what? I have Thunderbird and Java in use, and I
> see no interference with UAC enabled, other than you have to approve the
> update.


As in when it tried to update, the UAC prompt comes up; I allow it and
it still doesn't update.


>
> Do you really know what UAC is about? It's about not allowing a
> user-admin to run on the Internet or do anything else as a full-rights
> admin like on XP.


I know that.


>
> The admin-user is only a user with Standard user rights, that must be
> escalated to admin rights, the escalation to full-admin rights only last
> for the moment of escalation to do the task, and then the admin user is
> returned to being a Standard user again with Standard user rights only,
> not admin rights.


I know that too.

>
> Unlike XP that has no UAC, Vista doesn't allow a virus or malware the
> ability to have full rein on the computer once it has compromised the
> machine like on XP with a full-rights admin user using the machine.
>
> Malware or a virus can only run under the context of the user account
> that is using the computer. If admin user on Vista is only a Standard
> user with Standard user rights in reality that must be escalated to full
> admin rights, then that mitigates the damage that can occur because the
> virus or malware is not running with full admin rights with the user
> that's using an admin account on Vista.


I know that too.

>
> Nothing is bulletproof, but one doesn't see a lot of posts by Vista
> users about virus or malware issues, not like you see on XP.
>
>


Ian D 02-16-2009 03:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 

"tweakvista" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:102607acebb660d25d736c9aff97ce06@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Disabling UAC is not dangerious at all tbh. It is rather annoying and
> unless your a 'newb' i suggest disabling it.
>
> If you know what your doing on your computer the only thing you really
> need is a firewall and not an anti-virus.
>
>
> --
> tweakvista


I see something of a double standard here. Running Vista without
UAC enabled is a big, "no-no," yet running XP, which has no such
"protection" is perfectly acceptable, although Vista without UAC
is probably still more secure than XP.



Gordon 02-16-2009 08:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
"Ian D" <taurus@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:etq0xn%23jJHA.1928@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
> "tweakvista" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:102607acebb660d25d736c9aff97ce06@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> Disabling UAC is not dangerious at all tbh. It is rather annoying and
>> unless your a 'newb' i suggest disabling it.
>>
>> If you know what your doing on your computer the only thing you really
>> need is a firewall and not an anti-virus.
>>
>>
>> --
>> tweakvista

>
> I see something of a double standard here. Running Vista without
> UAC enabled is a big, "no-no," yet running XP, which has no such
> "protection" is perfectly acceptable, although Vista without UAC
> is probably still more secure than XP.
>



XP doesn't have UAC. And yes, XP users should run as a User on a daily basis
rather than an Admin but most people have been too lazy or ignorant to do
so.

--
Asking a question?
Please tell us the version of the application you are asking about,
your OS, Service Pack level
and the FULL contents of any error message(s)


Spirit 02-16-2009 07:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
http://www.tweak-uac.com/
Tweak UAC Utility - put UAC in Quiet Mode or On/OFF easily

http://xenomorph.net/?page_id=336
Vista Tweaker - UAC too

http://www.petri.co.il/disable_uac_in_windows_vista.htm
Disable UAC

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa905108.aspx
User Account Control

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../aa906022.aspx
TechNet Getting Started with UAC

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true
Windows Vista User Account Control Step by Step Guide

http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/win...9f44e1033.mspx
Understanding UAC

"Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?



DanS 02-16-2009 08:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Justin <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in
news:upSuRh9jJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:

(Top-posted for brevity.....)

Don't you just love it how some people, when they hear you don't like
something, it's because you don't understand it or how to use it or too
stupid to understand it.

How come, I know what it does, I know how it works, I don't like it is
never good enough for some people. (rhetorical)







> Jack the Ripper wrote:
>> Justin wrote:
>>> Kayman wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>>>>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
>>>>> warning me constantly?
>>>>
>>>> Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
>>>> ¡E User Account Control
>>>> ¡E Image management
>>>> ¡E Display Driver Model
>>>> ¡E Search
>>>> ¡E 64 bit architecture
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...ID=34f40386-96
>>>> 61-49b1-87ce-6d4a39e83747&DisplayLang=en
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they
>>>> install. AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to
>>>> find out how good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn
>>>> off UAC because it detected every rootkit used in the test.
>>>>
>>>> Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
>>>> "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the
>>>> same as avoiding any malware infection however there are some
>>>> special considerations:
>>>> Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they
>>>> *require* full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can
>>>> be avoided by running Windows from an account with *lesser*
>>>> privileges" (LUA in XP and UAC in Vista).
>>>>
>>>> You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read
>>>> about the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if
>>>> UAC is disabled,
>>>> then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
>>>>
>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc709691.aspx
>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc160882.aspx
>>>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc138019.aspx
>>>>
>>>> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
>>>>
>>>> Good luck :)
>>>
>>>
>>> I understand why UAC is there.
>>> I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's
>>> update and the Java updater as well.

>>
>> Interferes as far as what? I have Thunderbird and Java in use, and I
>> see no interference with UAC enabled, other than you have to approve
>> the update.

>
> As in when it tried to update, the UAC prompt comes up; I allow it and
> it still doesn't update.
>
>
>>
>> Do you really know what UAC is about? It's about not allowing a
>> user-admin to run on the Internet or do anything else as a
>> full-rights admin like on XP.

>
> I know that.
>
>
>>
>> The admin-user is only a user with Standard user rights, that must be
>> escalated to admin rights, the escalation to full-admin rights only
>> last for the moment of escalation to do the task, and then the admin
>> user is returned to being a Standard user again with Standard user
>> rights only, not admin rights.

>
> I know that too.
>
>>
>> Unlike XP that has no UAC, Vista doesn't allow a virus or malware the
>> ability to have full rein on the computer once it has compromised the
>> machine like on XP with a full-rights admin user using the machine.
>>
>> Malware or a virus can only run under the context of the user account
>> that is using the computer. If admin user on Vista is only a Standard
>> user with Standard user rights in reality that must be escalated to
>> full admin rights, then that mitigates the damage that can occur
>> because the virus or malware is not running with full admin rights
>> with the user that's using an admin account on Vista.

>
> I know that too.
>
>>
>> Nothing is bulletproof, but one doesn't see a lot of posts by Vista
>> users about virus or malware issues, not like you see on XP.
>>
>>



Jack the Ripper 02-16-2009 08:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Justin wrote:
> Jack the Ripper wrote:
>>> I understand why UAC is there.
>>> I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's
>>> update and the Java updater as well.

>>
>> Interferes as far as what? I have Thunderbird and Java in use, and I
>> see no interference with UAC enabled, other than you have to approve
>> the update.

>
> As in when it tried to update, the UAC prompt comes up; I allow it and
> it still doesn't update.


And some how, you think this is a UAC problem? When on the same token, I
do it and I have no problem?



Jack the Ripper 02-16-2009 08:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
DanS wrote:
> Justin <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in
> news:upSuRh9jJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>
> (Top-posted for brevity.....)
>
> Don't you just love it how some people, when they hear you don't like
> something, it's because you don't understand it or how to use it or too
> stupid to understand it.


Which is usually the case.
>
> How come, I know what it does, I know how it works, I don't like it is
> never good enough for some people. (rhetorical)


This is your pov, which is not good enough.

paliometoxo 02-16-2009 09:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 

well for those who only read email and visit a few websites how much
skill do you really need to do that?:)


--
paliometoxo

Jack the Ripper 02-16-2009 09:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
paliometoxo wrote:
> well for those who only read email and visit a few websites how much
> skill do you really need to do that?:)
>
>


Are you taking to yourself? How much trouble would it be for you to
learn how to reply post.

DanS 02-16-2009 11:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Jack the Ripper <Jack@Rripper.com> wrote in news:ejlXzxHkJHA.4028
@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:

> DanS wrote:
>> Justin <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in
>> news:upSuRh9jJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>
>> (Top-posted for brevity.....)
>>
>> Don't you just love it how some people, when they hear you don't like
>> something, it's because you don't understand it or how to use it or too
>> stupid to understand it.

>
> Which is usually the case.
>>
>> How come, I know what it does, I know how it works, I don't like it is
>> never good enough for some people. (rhetorical)

>
> This is your pov, which is not good enough.


Not good enough for ???????

Gene E. Bloch 02-16-2009 11:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:17:43 +0200, Thegrackfire wrote:

> Not Even Me wrote:
>> "Kayman" <kayhkay-nospam-@operamail.com> wrote in message
>> news:tkyvtjw916zj.1t5r5ei02wrl4.dlg@40tude.net...
>>> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
>>> Good luck :)

>>
>> Most users with a brain don't like the constant nagging of UAC.
>> As good as the idea may be, the implementation is so poor as to render it
>> useless.
>>
>>

>
> no one seems to have mentioned www.tweakuac.com
>
> TweakUACâ„¢ is a free software tool that you can use to quickly turn UAC
> (User Account Control of Windows Vista) on or off, or to make UAC
> operate in the quiet mode. This software is FREE, no strings attached.


OK, then, I'll mention it :-)

However, in quiet mode, TweakUAC still makes Windows bring up the annoying
shield that the OP wanted to get rid of.

I decided not to follow your advice about turning that off, though, in case
some significant message would eventually be suppressed. Just paranoia, I
guess.

--
Gene E. Bloch letters0x40blochg0x2Ecom

Jack the Ripper 02-17-2009 04:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
DanS wrote:
> Jack the Ripper <Jack@Rripper.com> wrote in news:ejlXzxHkJHA.4028
> @TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl:
>
>> DanS wrote:
>>> Justin <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in
>>> news:upSuRh9jJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl:
>>>
>>> (Top-posted for brevity.....)
>>>
>>> Don't you just love it how some people, when they hear you don't like
>>> something, it's because you don't understand it or how to use it or too
>>> stupid to understand it.

>> Which is usually the case.
>>> How come, I know what it does, I know how it works, I don't like it is
>>> never good enough for some people. (rhetorical)

>> This is your pov, which is not good enough.

>
> Not good enough for ???????


You are boring.

Not Even Me 02-17-2009 09:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 

"Jack the Ripper" <Jack@Rripper.com> wrote in message
news:ejlXzxHkJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> DanS wrote:
>> Justin <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in
>> news:upSuRh9jJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: (Top-posted for brevity.....)
>>
>> Don't you just love it how some people, when they hear you don't like
>> something, it's because you don't understand it or how to use it or too
>> stupid to understand it.

>
> Which is usually the case.
>>
>> How come, I know what it does, I know how it works, I don't like it is
>> never good enough for some people. (rhetorical)

>
> This is your pov, which is not good enough.


And just what makes your POV superior or more important?



DanS 02-17-2009 11:30 AM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
"Not Even Me" <cargod01@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:OeencdOkJHA.4448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl:

>
> "Jack the Ripper" <Jack@Rripper.com> wrote in message
> news:ejlXzxHkJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> DanS wrote:
>>> Justin <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in
>>> news:upSuRh9jJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: (Top-posted for
>>> brevity.....)
>>>
>>> Don't you just love it how some people, when they hear you don't
>>> like something, it's because you don't understand it or how to use
>>> it or too stupid to understand it.

>>
>> Which is usually the case.
>>>
>>> How come, I know what it does, I know how it works, I don't like it
>>> is never good enough for some people. (rhetorical)

>>
>> This is your pov, which is not good enough.

>
> And just what makes your POV superior or more important?


It wasn't even a POV or opinon, but an observation.


Jack the Ripper 02-17-2009 02:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 
Not Even Me wrote:
> "Jack the Ripper" <Jack@Rripper.com> wrote in message
> news:ejlXzxHkJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> DanS wrote:
>>> Justin <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in
>>> news:upSuRh9jJHA.4760@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl: (Top-posted for brevity.....)
>>>
>>> Don't you just love it how some people, when they hear you don't like
>>> something, it's because you don't understand it or how to use it or too
>>> stupid to understand it.

>> Which is usually the case.
>>> How come, I know what it does, I know how it works, I don't like it is
>>> never good enough for some people. (rhetorical)

>> This is your pov, which is not good enough.

>
> And just what makes your POV superior or more important?
>
>


What makes you think that your pov is superior, important or the course
of actions you have posted about anything you have done here that you
have to me is significant and I should respect your pov?

What you have doing now and what you have done in the past as I have
encountered you is give me a lot of lip service.

Bill Yanaire OB/GYN 02-18-2009 05:30 PM

Re: I turned off UAC
 

"Thegrackfire" <Thegrackfire@cabra.com> wrote in message
news:4997d0b8$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> semoi wrote:
>> The UAC, as you realize, is utterly useless.
>> The concept of a warning is admirable. However the Vista UAC is simply a
>> blind prompt that gives no information about any potential threat and
>> merely pops up as result of user actions. Its aim is to make the user
>> feel responsible if something goes awry rather than blame the lazy ass
>> programming that goes into Windows.
>> Win7/Vista SP3 does not have the knee jerk UAC of Vista. Alas Win7/Vista
>> SP3 retains, as far as I can see and have read, all the lazy ass
>> programming that makes Windows unnecessarily vulnerable to the evil
>> a-holes of the world.
>> The OS itself, whether Windows/Apple/Linux is rapidly becoming irrelevant
>> in a browser based, cloud computing world.
>> IBM may have the last laugh as it pushes a Linux based cloud computing
>> model to companies fed up with tithing Microsoft's endless and valueless
>> upgrade cycles.

>
>
> You are correct about all the points you are making. I have talked about
> them again and again in here, but vista fans dont have high IQ's and dont
> understand what the heck I am talking about.


Simply not true. Only ****ing retards (like yourself) lump everyone into
the same category. In reality, you don't understand how Vista works so you
bash it whenever you can. Better get a book, "Vista for Retards" and study
real hard.

Within a year or two, even you can learn how to run a computer.


>
> > The OS itself, whether Windows/Apple/Linux is rapidly becoming
> > irrelevant in a browser based, cloud computing world.


Try running your computer without an OS. Oops, you use Etch-A-Sketch.
Never mind.

Now reinsert your head into your ass again and have someone tape it shut.





All times are GMT. The time now is 03:45 PM.

vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.