Clean Installation Question--Legal

John--

Why not just uninstall anything you don't want? I would consider Office
2007 useful not bloatware, but to each his own. Why not uninstall all the
crap though that they load that you don't want--wouldn't that be faster and
easier?

CH


"John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:eryMNAuBIHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thank you all for your thoughts and comments. The 'bloatware' is all
> Lenovo helper apps plus the garbage software companies paid Lenovo to
> install... Office 2007, Norton.... need I say more.
>
> Were all this 'bloatware' fully tested, I would not be attempting what I
> am. But many issues I have had disappear if I uninstall some of the
> 'bloatware'. Coincidence... you may say so, but I'm tired of blaming Vista
> for what could be bad software from another source. So if I install a
> new, Vista only, version, then I can honestly see if Vista is broken.
>
>
> "John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
> news:u3ZgvWtBIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
>> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
>> legal.
>>
>> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
>> causing problems.
>>
>> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
>> Vista.
>>
>> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
>> bloatware included.
>>
>> My Question:
>>
>> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
>> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
>> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>>
>>

>
>


 


John--

Why not just uninstall anything you don't want? I would consider Office
2007 useful not bloatware, but to each his own. Why not uninstall all the
crap though that they load that you don't want--wouldn't that be faster and
easier?

CH


"John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:eryMNAuBIHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thank you all for your thoughts and comments. The 'bloatware' is all
> Lenovo helper apps plus the garbage software companies paid Lenovo to
> install... Office 2007, Norton.... need I say more.
>
> Were all this 'bloatware' fully tested, I would not be attempting what I
> am. But many issues I have had disappear if I uninstall some of the
> 'bloatware'. Coincidence... you may say so, but I'm tired of blaming Vista
> for what could be bad software from another source. So if I install a
> new, Vista only, version, then I can honestly see if Vista is broken.
>
>
> "John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
> news:u3ZgvWtBIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
>> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
>> legal.
>>
>> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
>> causing problems.
>>
>> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
>> Vista.
>>
>> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
>> bloatware included.
>>
>> My Question:
>>
>> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
>> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
>> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>>
>>

>
>


 
John wrote:
> I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
> legal.
>
> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
> causing problems.
>
> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
> Vista.
>
> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
> bloatware included.
>
> My Question:
>
> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>
>


Hi John.

MS just keeps making their complicated licensing more of a collosal
hemorrhoid. My suggestion to you would be to forget the whole licensing
route and use the following free utility to remove the OEM craplets
from your machine:

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,67264-page,1/description.html

or go to programs in control panel and follow directions at the below
link (complete with pictures):
http://www.netomatix.com/Development/VistaAddRemove.aspx

or do both. I'm not sure exactly what you are looking to get rid of,
but hopefully this helps.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
John wrote:
> I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
> legal.
>
> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
> causing problems.
>
> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
> Vista.
>
> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
> bloatware included.
>
> My Question:
>
> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>
>


Hi John.

MS just keeps making their complicated licensing more of a collosal
hemorrhoid. My suggestion to you would be to forget the whole licensing
route and use the following free utility to remove the OEM craplets
from your machine:

http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,67264-page,1/description.html

or go to programs in control panel and follow directions at the below
link (complete with pictures):
http://www.netomatix.com/Development/VistaAddRemove.aspx

or do both. I'm not sure exactly what you are looking to get rid of,
but hopefully this helps.

--
Priceless quotes in m.p.w.vista.general group:
http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

"Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on
free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the
creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer
rights in the digital age are not frivolous."
- Maura Corbett
 
Thank you all for your help. My goal is a clean install. Doing a reinstall
of the Lenovo supplied package and then having to delete what I don't want
is not only extra work but also not a clean install since no uninstall ever
completely uninstalls everything hidden everywhere, especially the registry.
I will do more research but again, thank you all for your advice.


"John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:u3ZgvWtBIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
> legal.
>
> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
> causing problems.
>
> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
> Vista.
>
> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
> bloatware included.
>
> My Question:
>
> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>
>



 
Thank you all for your help. My goal is a clean install. Doing a reinstall
of the Lenovo supplied package and then having to delete what I don't want
is not only extra work but also not a clean install since no uninstall ever
completely uninstalls everything hidden everywhere, especially the registry.
I will do more research but again, thank you all for your advice.


"John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:u3ZgvWtBIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
> legal.
>
> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
> causing problems.
>
> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
> Vista.
>
> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
> bloatware included.
>
> My Question:
>
> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>
>



 

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