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Old 02-15-2009, 09:30 AM   #11
Thegrackfire
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Justin wrote:[color=blue]
> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?[/color]

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Old 02-15-2009, 11:30 AM   #12
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"Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?[/color]

Here is a good article about UAC and several methods on how to modify it and remove
the constant nag messages:

[url]http://www.computerperformance.co.uk/vista/user_account_control.htm[/url]



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Old 02-15-2009, 03:30 PM   #13
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"Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
> me constantly?[/color]


Go to Control Panel > Security Center..

Now click on 'Change the way Security Center alerts me'

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Old 02-15-2009, 04:30 PM   #14
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Disabling UAC is not dangerious at all tbh. It is rather annoying and
unless your a 'newb' i suggest disabling it.

If you know what your doing on your computer the only thing you really
need is a firewall and not an anti-virus.


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Old 02-15-2009, 04:30 PM   #15
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"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
news:%23OEUKQ4jJHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...[color=blue]
> "Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
> news:uQgoQMzjJHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...[color=green]
>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
>> me constantly?[/color]
>
>
> Go to Control Panel > Security Center..
>
> Now click on 'Change the way Security Center alerts me'
>
> --
> Mike Hall - MVP
>
> Mike's Window - My Blog..
> [url]http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx[/url]
>
>[/color]


No fuss, no muss, no screeches about Linux or Apple, just the correct
answer.

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Old 02-15-2009, 07:30 PM   #16
Justin
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Kayman wrote:[color=blue]
> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
>[color=green]
>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from warning
>> me constantly?[/color]
>
> Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
> ¡E User Account Control
> ¡E Image management
> ¡E Display Driver Model
> ¡E Search
> ¡E 64 bit architecture
> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=34f40386-9661-49b1-87ce-6d4a39e83747&DisplayLang=en[/url]
>
> The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
> AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
> good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
> detected every rootkit used in the test.
>
> Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
> "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
> avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
> considerations:
> Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
> full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
> running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
> UAC in Vista).
>
> You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
> the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is disabled,
> then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
>
> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx[/url]
> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc160882.aspx[/url]
> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc138019.aspx[/url]
>
> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
>
> Good luck :)[/color]


I understand why UAC is there.
I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update
and the Java updater as well.
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Old 02-15-2009, 08:30 PM   #17
Jack the Ripper
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Justin wrote:[color=blue]
> Kayman wrote:[color=green]
>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
>>> warning me constantly?[/color]
>>
>> Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
>> ¡E User Account Control
>> ¡E Image management
>> ¡E Display Driver Model
>> ¡E Search
>> ¡E 64 bit architecture
>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=34f40386-9661-49b1-87ce-6d4a39e83747&DisplayLang=en[/url]
>>
>>
>> The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
>> AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
>> good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
>> detected every rootkit used in the test.
>>
>> Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
>> "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
>> avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
>> considerations:
>> Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
>> full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
>> running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
>> UAC in Vista).
>>
>> You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
>> the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is
>> disabled,
>> then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
>>
>> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx[/url]
>> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc160882.aspx[/url]
>> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc138019.aspx[/url]
>>
>> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
>>
>> Good luck :)[/color]
>
>
> I understand why UAC is there.
> I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update
> and the Java updater as well.[/color]

Interferes as far as what? I have Thunderbird and Java in use, and I
see no interference with UAC enabled, other than you have to approve the
update.

Do you really know what UAC is about? It's about not allowing a
user-admin to run on the Internet or do anything else as a full-rights
admin like on XP.

The admin-user is only a user with Standard user rights, that must be
escalated to admin rights, the escalation to full-admin rights only last
for the moment of escalation to do the task, and then the admin user is
returned to being a Standard user again with Standard user rights only,
not admin rights.

Unlike XP that has no UAC, Vista doesn't allow a virus or malware the
ability to have full rein on the computer once it has compromised the
machine like on XP with a full-rights admin user using the machine.

Malware or a virus can only run under the context of the user account
that is using the computer. If admin user on Vista is only a Standard
user with Standard user rights in reality that must be escalated to full
admin rights, then that mitigates the damage that can occur because the
virus or malware is not running with full admin rights with the user
that's using an admin account on Vista.

Nothing is bulletproof, but one doesn't see a lot of posts by Vista
users about virus or malware issues, not like you see on XP.




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Old 02-15-2009, 10:30 PM   #18
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"Justin" <Justin@nobecauseihatespam> wrote in message
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> I understand why UAC is there.
> I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update and
> the Java updater as well.[/color]


Nope - doesn't do that here....

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Old 02-16-2009, 01:30 AM   #19
Justin
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Jack the Ripper wrote:[color=blue]
> Justin wrote:[color=green]
>> Kayman wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:03:01 -0500, Justin wrote:
>>>
>>>> For various reasons I turned off UAC.
>>>> Is there a way I can prevent that bubble in the lower right from
>>>> warning me constantly?
>>>
>>> Five Misunderstood Features in Windows Vista
>>> ¡E User Account Control
>>> ¡E Image management
>>> ¡E Display Driver Model
>>> ¡E Search
>>> ¡E 64 bit architecture
>>> [url]http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=34f40386-9661-49b1-87ce-6d4a39e83747&DisplayLang=en[/url]
>>>
>>>
>>> The User Access Control (UAC) can detect rootkits before they install.
>>> AV-Test.org carried on a test of common AV applications to find out how
>>> good they detected rootkits. The examiner had to turn off UAC because it
>>> detected every rootkit used in the test.
>>>
>>> Avoiding Rootkit Infection.
>>> "The rules to avoid rootkit infection are for the most part the same as
>>> avoiding any malware infection however there are some special
>>> considerations:
>>> Because rootkits meddle with the operating system itself they *require*
>>> full Administrator rights to install. Hence infection can be avoided by
>>> running Windows from an account with *lesser* privileges" (LUA in XP and
>>> UAC in Vista).
>>>
>>> You should understand the reason why UAC is there. You should read about
>>> the two access tokens for user/admin on Vista, and yes, if UAC is
>>> disabled,
>>> then Run As Administrator is disabled too.
>>>
>>> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx[/url]
>>> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc160882.aspx[/url]
>>> [url]http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc138019.aspx[/url]
>>>
>>> Now, listen to the experts and be guided accordingly!
>>>
>>> Good luck :)[/color]
>>
>>
>> I understand why UAC is there.
>> I also understand that it interferes with Firefox/Thunderbird's update
>> and the Java updater as well.[/color]
>
> Interferes as far as what? I have Thunderbird and Java in use, and I
> see no interference with UAC enabled, other than you have to approve the
> update.[/color]

As in when it tried to update, the UAC prompt comes up; I allow it and
it still doesn't update.

[color=blue]
>
> Do you really know what UAC is about? It's about not allowing a
> user-admin to run on the Internet or do anything else as a full-rights
> admin like on XP.[/color]

I know that.

[color=blue]
>
> The admin-user is only a user with Standard user rights, that must be
> escalated to admin rights, the escalation to full-admin rights only last
> for the moment of escalation to do the task, and then the admin user is
> returned to being a Standard user again with Standard user rights only,
> not admin rights.[/color]

I know that too.
[color=blue]
>
> Unlike XP that has no UAC, Vista doesn't allow a virus or malware the
> ability to have full rein on the computer once it has compromised the
> machine like on XP with a full-rights admin user using the machine.
>
> Malware or a virus can only run under the context of the user account
> that is using the computer. If admin user on Vista is only a Standard
> user with Standard user rights in reality that must be escalated to full
> admin rights, then that mitigates the damage that can occur because the
> virus or malware is not running with full admin rights with the user
> that's using an admin account on Vista.[/color]

I know that too.
[color=blue]
>
> Nothing is bulletproof, but one doesn't see a lot of posts by Vista
> users about virus or malware issues, not like you see on XP.
>
>[/color]
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Old 02-16-2009, 03:30 AM   #20
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"tweakvista" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:102607acebb660d25d736c9aff97ce06@nntp-gateway.com...[color=blue]
>
> Disabling UAC is not dangerious at all tbh. It is rather annoying and
> unless your a 'newb' i suggest disabling it.
>
> If you know what your doing on your computer the only thing you really
> need is a firewall and not an anti-virus.
>
>
> --
> tweakvista[/color]

I see something of a double standard here. Running Vista without
UAC enabled is a big, "no-no," yet running XP, which has no such
"protection" is perfectly acceptable, although Vista without UAC
is probably still more secure than XP.



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