Opera NewsGroup Gone?

OldGuy

In the past I used news.opera.com / opera.general

Now It seems not to work.
11/21/2013 is the last post I have captured some time ago.

Is there an alternative?

Or maybe someone here can answer.

How do I force Opera to download all eMail info.
I see the header but have to click and wait for the internals and
attachments (if any) to show up.

Opera 12.16 build 1860

Or is there some other app that will do as Opera 12 does: support
eMail, browsing and newsgroups?

TIA



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Mike Easter

OldGuy wrote:
> In the past I used news.opera.com / opera.general
>
> Now It seems not to work.
> 11/21/2013 is the last post I have captured some time ago.

The name news.opera.com resolves but there is no answer/ID on port 119.

The group opera.general and other opera.* groups are carried by my
general usenet server and there are messages in that group as recently
as 12/26.

If your netfront doesn't carry the opera groups, eternal-september does.

> Is there an alternative?
>
> Or maybe someone here can answer.
>
> How do I force Opera to download all eMail info.
> I see the header but have to click and wait for the internals and
> attachments (if any) to show up.
>
> Opera 12.16 build 1860

I don't currently have an Opera installed, but there is an opera mail
tutorial here which might have something in it

http://www.opera.com/help/tutorials/mail/ Opera Mail Tutorial ... to
expand on the basic information in Opera Help - Email and News.

> Or is there some other app that will do as Opera 12 does: support eMail,
> browsing and newsgroups?

A plus for opera is its compliant support of format=flowed, which Tb
doesn't adequately support.


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Mike Easter

BillW50

On 1/3/2014 4:20 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
> A plus for opera is its compliant support of format=flowed, which Tb
> doesn't adequately support.

Really? Tell me more as I use TB on occasion. I have been known to use
Opera too. What turned me off most of the time was most websites doesn't
support Opera.

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Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center

Mike Easter

BillW50 wrote:
> Mike Easter wrote:

>> A plus for opera is its compliant support of format=flowed, which Tb
>> doesn't adequately support.
>
> Really? Tell me more as I use TB on occasion. I have been known to use
> Opera too. What turned me off most of the time was most websites doesn't
> support Opera.

This is a very old faq about f=f http://joeclark.org/ffaq.html The
format=flowed FAQ

Eudora 'fostered' the f=f format
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1626hq.html

It became a 'standard' with a couple of RFCs, the newest of which is
3676 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676 As Text/Plain messages are
quoted in replies or forwarded messages,each line gradually increases in
length, eventually being arbitrarily hard wrapped, resulting in
"embarrassing line wrap". This produces text which is, at best, hard to
read, and often confuses attributions. ... What is desired is a format
which is in all significant ways Text/Plain, and therefore is quite
suitable for display as Text/Plain, and yet allows the sender to express
to the receiver which lines can be considered a logical paragraph, and
thus flowed (wrapped and joined) as appropriate.

Tb claims to be/support f=f but it is not properly compliant for the
all-important quoted text
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text..._-_Thunderbird By default,
support for flowed plain-text format is enabled.

Opera DOES support f=f compliantly.

.... which has nothing to do with browser business.

Re your webserver opera support issue:

Some people who have problems with websites not supporting their browser
use an add-on to announce/disguise their browser as something else
http://browserfame.com/265/opera-ide...ask-difference Opera
provides a built-in solution for this problem where the users can spoof
their browser identity and fool web servers. Opera offers two types of
settings to fight with browser discrimination:


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Mike Easter

RobertMacy

On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 14:38:06 -0700, OldGuy <OldGuy@nospam.com> wrote:

> In the past I used news.opera.com / opera.general
>
> Now It seems not to work.
> 11/21/2013 is the last post I have captured some time ago.
>
> Is there an alternative?
>
> Or maybe someone here can answer.
>
> How do I force Opera to download all eMail info.
> I see the header but have to click and wait for the internals and
> attachments (if any) to show up.
>
> Opera 12.16 build 1860
>
> Or is there some other app that will do as Opera 12 does: support eMail,
> browsing and newsgroups?
>
> TIA
> ...snip...

Did you try their forums?
customize
<http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=28>
chat and news
<http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=32>

Mark Blain

OldGuy <OldGuy@nospam.com> wrote (in part):

> ...is there some other app that will do as Opera 12 does: support
> eMail, browsing and newsgroups?

You might take a look at Seamonkey: Internet browser, email &
newsgroup client, HTML editor, IRC chat and web development tools.
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/about

Hot-Text

"BillW50" <BillW50@aol.kom> wrote in message news:la7f1p$uac$1@dont-email.me...
> On 1/3/2014 4:20 PM, Mike Easter wrote:
>> A plus for opera is its compliant support of format=flowed, which Tb
>> doesn't adequately support.
>
> Really? Tell me more as I use TB on occasion. I have been known to use Opera too. What turned me off most of the time was most
> websites doesn't support Opera.
>

Dam I Use Opera
Too and me turned off
Is most of the time when
O'Most All web-Sites
Doesn't support IE8.
As we move in to HTML5

Opera News Die

No'oooooooo
Seeing is believing


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