Clean Installation Question--Legal

In article <e#vkCvtBIHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org says...
> There isn't any bloatware that come on Thinkpads, unless Lenovo have changed
> things.


I've done about 30 Lenovo TP T61's last month, needed to remove Office
Trial and Google crap and several other things....

I also remove a lot of the Lenovo items to make life easier on the
remote people.

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In article <e#vkCvtBIHA.1356@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>,
synapse@NOSPAMgomez404.elitemail.org says...
> There isn't any bloatware that come on Thinkpads, unless Lenovo have changed
> things.


I've done about 30 Lenovo TP T61's last month, needed to remove Office
Trial and Google crap and several other things....

I also remove a lot of the Lenovo items to make life easier on the
remote people.

--

Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
 
Hi,

Carey is correct in that the retail disk won't accept usage of the OEM
product key. Not so much legal as technical. Install the OEM recovery
product, and then immediately uninstall all the added programs. Your
thinkpad will require proprietary drivers not in the retail disk, and to
support the hardware correctly you need Lenovo's proprietary (OEM) version
of Vista installed.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:eryMNAuBIHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thank you all for your thoughts and comments. The 'bloatware' is all
> Lenovo helper apps plus the garbage software companies paid Lenovo to
> install... Office 2007, Norton.... need I say more.
>
> Were all this 'bloatware' fully tested, I would not be attempting what I
> am. But many issues I have had disappear if I uninstall some of the
> 'bloatware'. Coincidence... you may say so, but I'm tired of blaming Vista
> for what could be bad software from another source. So if I install a
> new, Vista only, version, then I can honestly see if Vista is broken.
>
>
> "John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
> news:u3ZgvWtBIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
>> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
>> legal.
>>
>> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
>> causing problems.
>>
>> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
>> Vista.
>>
>> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
>> bloatware included.
>>
>> My Question:
>>
>> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
>> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
>> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>>
>>

>
>


 
"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u$bgi2uBIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> Your
> thinkpad will require proprietary drivers not in the retail disk, and
> to support the hardware correctly you need Lenovo's proprietary (OEM)
> version of Vista installed.



They are all available at the Thinkpad download centre, just like they are
for all other laptop makes.

ss.


 
John

All of these things can be removed. Go to 'Programs and Features' in Control
Panel to uninstall them. You will then have Vista Business as if it had been
installed from a genuine Vista Business DVD.


"John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:eryMNAuBIHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thank you all for your thoughts and comments. The 'bloatware' is all
> Lenovo helper apps plus the garbage software companies paid Lenovo to
> install... Office 2007, Norton.... need I say more.
>
> Were all this 'bloatware' fully tested, I would not be attempting what I
> am. But many issues I have had disappear if I uninstall some of the
> 'bloatware'. Coincidence... you may say so, but I'm tired of blaming Vista
> for what could be bad software from another source. So if I install a
> new, Vista only, version, then I can honestly see if Vista is broken.
>
>
> "John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
> news:u3ZgvWtBIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
>> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
>> legal.
>>
>> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
>> causing problems.
>>
>> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
>> Vista.
>>
>> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
>> bloatware included.
>>
>> My Question:
>>
>> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
>> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
>> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>>
>>

>
>


 
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message
news:uNb3u6uBIHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>
> All of these things can be removed. Go to 'Programs and Features' in
> Control Panel to uninstall them. You will then have Vista Business as
> if it had been installed from a genuine Vista Business DVD.



Not really, as Vista has no package management system. There will be the
usual shrapnel in Program Files, Windows folder, Users Application Data
(useful for reinstallation of programs) and, of course, the registry.

ss.


 
Hi,

Carey is correct in that the retail disk won't accept usage of the OEM
product key. Not so much legal as technical. Install the OEM recovery
product, and then immediately uninstall all the added programs. Your
thinkpad will require proprietary drivers not in the retail disk, and to
support the hardware correctly you need Lenovo's proprietary (OEM) version
of Vista installed.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:eryMNAuBIHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thank you all for your thoughts and comments. The 'bloatware' is all
> Lenovo helper apps plus the garbage software companies paid Lenovo to
> install... Office 2007, Norton.... need I say more.
>
> Were all this 'bloatware' fully tested, I would not be attempting what I
> am. But many issues I have had disappear if I uninstall some of the
> 'bloatware'. Coincidence... you may say so, but I'm tired of blaming Vista
> for what could be bad software from another source. So if I install a
> new, Vista only, version, then I can honestly see if Vista is broken.
>
>
> "John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
> news:u3ZgvWtBIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
>> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
>> legal.
>>
>> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
>> causing problems.
>>
>> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
>> Vista.
>>
>> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
>> bloatware included.
>>
>> My Question:
>>
>> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
>> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
>> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>>
>>

>
>


 
"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:u$bgi2uBIHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl
> Your
> thinkpad will require proprietary drivers not in the retail disk, and
> to support the hardware correctly you need Lenovo's proprietary (OEM)
> version of Vista installed.



They are all available at the Thinkpad download centre, just like they are
for all other laptop makes.

ss.


 
John

All of these things can be removed. Go to 'Programs and Features' in Control
Panel to uninstall them. You will then have Vista Business as if it had been
installed from a genuine Vista Business DVD.


"John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
news:eryMNAuBIHA.4160@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Thank you all for your thoughts and comments. The 'bloatware' is all
> Lenovo helper apps plus the garbage software companies paid Lenovo to
> install... Office 2007, Norton.... need I say more.
>
> Were all this 'bloatware' fully tested, I would not be attempting what I
> am. But many issues I have had disappear if I uninstall some of the
> 'bloatware'. Coincidence... you may say so, but I'm tired of blaming Vista
> for what could be bad software from another source. So if I install a
> new, Vista only, version, then I can honestly see if Vista is broken.
>
>
> "John" <me@myhome.net> wrote in message
> news:u3ZgvWtBIHA.3564@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I have an OEM Vista Business on a Thinkpad from Lenovo. All is legal.
>> I have an Upgrade Vista CD to Vista Home Basic that I purchased. All is
>> legal.
>>
>> My Lenovo Vista Business came with all the usual bloatware that I feel is
>> causing problems.
>>
>> I want to install a new Vista Business OS without ANY the bloat... pure
>> Vista.
>>
>> The Restore CDs etc programs will only get me back to Factory specs...
>> bloatware included.
>>
>> My Question:
>>
>> Can I use the Vista Home Basic upgrade CD to get my Vista Business
>> installed ( I have read all versions of Vista are on the CDs)
>> and then get the telephone authorization approved based on my OEM data?
>>
>>

>
>


 
"Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@mvps.com> wrote in message
news:uNb3u6uBIHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl
>
> All of these things can be removed. Go to 'Programs and Features' in
> Control Panel to uninstall them. You will then have Vista Business as
> if it had been installed from a genuine Vista Business DVD.



Not really, as Vista has no package management system. There will be the
usual shrapnel in Program Files, Windows folder, Users Application Data
(useful for reinstallation of programs) and, of course, the registry.

ss.


 

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